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  • Jamieson22J Offline
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    Jamieson22
    Team Blue PK100 Regular Contributors Sous Vide Power User
    wrote on last edited by
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    https://www.wardsci.com/store/product/8887878/sodium-nitrite

    Sodium Nitrite
    (No Reviews)
    CAS Number: 7632-00-0
    Formula Weight: 69.00
    Formula: NaNO2
    Hazard Info: Oxidizer, Flammable, Explosive, Toxic
    Density (g/mL): 2.17
    Freezing Point (°C): 270
    Solubility: Water and Alcohol
    Synonyms: Nitrous Acid Sodium Salt
    Shelf Life (months): 36
    Storage: Yellow

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      processhead
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      Just my humble opinion, but I think that some or the shelf life advisory on items like this is corporate lawyer-ese speaking.
      Almost all of what I am reading about cure #1 shelf life is that if it is stored in a sealed container, in a cool, dry place, it is ok.

      Neither sodium chloride or sodium nitrite, alone or together, are reactive unless there is something else added for them to react with.
      If someone has information to the contrary, I would like to learn more about it.

      Paul

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        glen
        Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        The following in quotes is a reprint from an article questioning the longevity of curing salt

        “Expiration dates are a legal label requirement and for something like this has no relationship to any deterioration. I am an analytical chemist and used to set dates for products based on shelf life testing but for something as stable as this it is usual just to go for 3 or 5 years, really to allow for poor packaging, contamination if it is opened many times. So as long as you have kept it well packaged should be ok for some time.”

        I don’t know what “some time” means but in this case they obviously mean more than 5 years
        I too am very much interested in more info/data from an expert

        Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
        Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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          craigrice
          Power User Canning Team Orange Regular Contributors Veteran Masterbuilt
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          if you keep it that long you either stock too much or not making enough sausage lol

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            shoprat53
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            Thank you all for the good information will keep it and use it next batch of sausage I make.

            Donald glass

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            • G glen

              The following in quotes is a reprint from an article questioning the longevity of curing salt

              “Expiration dates are a legal label requirement and for something like this has no relationship to any deterioration. I am an analytical chemist and used to set dates for products based on shelf life testing but for something as stable as this it is usual just to go for 3 or 5 years, really to allow for poor packaging, contamination if it is opened many times. So as long as you have kept it well packaged should be ok for some time.”

              I don’t know what “some time” means but in this case they obviously mean more than 5 years
              I too am very much interested in more info/data from an expert

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              calldoctoday
              Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors
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              glen Be nice if we could just get the details, all the details, the whole truth, & nothing but the truth rather than all the legalese. What a wonderful simple world it would be, pipe dreams I suppose.

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                glen Be nice if we could just get the details, all the details, the whole truth, & nothing but the truth rather than all the legalese. What a wonderful simple world it would be, pipe dreams I suppose.

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                glen
                Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                calldoctoday Total agreement!

                Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                  Jonathon
                  Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
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                  processhead Is probably on to something there!

                  Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                    mrobisr
                    Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
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                    I have some Morton’s Sugar Cure that ranges from 12-17 years old and all it has done is absorb a little atmospheric moisture. How do I over come that, I either dry it or just measure by volume, for me I just measure by volume and call it a day. How do I know its still good, well my meat still turns pink and/or red depending on what I’m curing and for how long I’m curing it, so yes it still works.

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                      Just my humble opinion, but I think that some or the shelf life advisory on items like this is corporate lawyer-ese speaking.
                      Almost all of what I am reading about cure #1 shelf life is that if it is stored in a sealed container, in a cool, dry place, it is ok.

                      Neither sodium chloride or sodium nitrite, alone or together, are reactive unless there is something else added for them to react with.
                      If someone has information to the contrary, I would like to learn more about it.

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                      zbigjeff
                      Sous Vide Team Blue Power User Regular Contributors Cast Iron
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                      #15

                      processhead Thanks for putting that “sensible” hat on sir. I agree with YOU!!!

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