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Hi from Brazil. New Smoker in here.

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  • JonathonJ Offline
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    Jonathon
    Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
    wrote on last edited by
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    @LaBarca-cf Welcome to the board! I am not 100% sure what you mean by meat pieced sausage (something is getting lost in translation here?) but I am assuming it means ground sausage that has been stuffed into a casing and smoked, let me know if that isnt correct.

    Now, this is just some general food safety stuff, I have no clue whatsoever what the rules and regulations are in Brazil for a food truck!

    Your smoke schedule sounds good as long as this is a cured sausage? If it is not cured then you are going to be in the “danger zone” of 40° F to 140° F (4° C - 60° C) for too long and you might end up with smoke botulism spores growing. Your 71°C is a good finished temperature, so you are good there.

    Yes, if you seal the bag (vacuum seal would be best) then putting them on ice like this should be fine, if your goal is to stop the cooking process then 20 minutes should be enough.

    Once the sausage has been cooked they should be okay for 3-4 days. You can always freeze them though and get 1-2 months.

    Hope this helped!

    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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    • LaBarca.cfL Offline
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      LaBarca.cf
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      Hello Team.

      Thanks for Support.

      Yeah Translation hard for me in this case.

      But will show you what I want to smoke and take in refrigerator to stock more and just Grill.

      3 - 5 days, thanks!!

      About sausage It’s not Cured and Meat Pieced I mean…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgxAiVxmQhM

      How to correclty smoke that please?

      U said

      If it is not cured then you are going to be in the “danger zone” of 40° F to 140° F (4° C - 60° C) for too long

      Can you review Whole schedule ?

      30 minutes X Degress
      30 minutes X Degress
      30 minutes X Degress

      Lowdown to 77 Celsius
      and keep monitoring the internal themp
      to score 71 Celsius…

      Vacum Pack and ICE.

      Any extra review? Any tip for Grill that later?

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      • LaBarca.cfL LaBarca.cf

        Hello Team.

        Thanks for Support.

        Yeah Translation hard for me in this case.

        But will show you what I want to smoke and take in refrigerator to stock more and just Grill.

        3 - 5 days, thanks!!

        About sausage It’s not Cured and Meat Pieced I mean…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgxAiVxmQhM

        How to correclty smoke that please?

        U said

        If it is not cured then you are going to be in the “danger zone” of 40° F to 140° F (4° C - 60° C) for too long

        Can you review Whole schedule ?

        30 minutes X Degress
        30 minutes X Degress
        30 minutes X Degress

        Lowdown to 77 Celsius
        and keep monitoring the internal themp
        to score 71 Celsius…

        Vacum Pack and ICE.

        Any extra review? Any tip for Grill that later?

        Joe HellJ Offline
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        Joe Hell
        Team Blue
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        @LaBarca-cf Ah, linguica picanha! I might have to try that. I like the idea of the coarse chopped meat as was discussed in another thread. That looks like a good recipe for a single grind with the 3/16" plate.

        Better Living Through BBQ!

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        • LaBarca.cfL Offline
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          LaBarca.cf
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          Joe Hell said in Hi from Brazil. New Smoker in here.:

          coarse chopped meat

          coarse chopped meat
          coarse chopped meat
          coarse chopped meat

          THanksss

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          • JonathonJ Offline
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            Jonathon
            Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            @LaBarca-cf Since you aren’t using Sure Cure it would be considered fresh here so, you have to get it above 140° in 40 minutes from when you start cooking it. This is to prevent the growth of bacteria and microorganisms that can create issues for you. You will want a thermometer that can tell you the internal temperature of your sausage. We can’t give you a smoke schedule as this isn’t cured and because we dont know what seasoning, meat or casings you are using. I would recommend setting your smoker/grill around 275 and keeping an eye on the first few batches and pulling them when they hit 71° C (160° F).

            If you are going to vac pack them and then put them on ice you might also want to consider using warm water to reheat them. You can just toss the vacuum bag into water that is set to the temp you want to serve your sausage leave it in there for 20 minutes or so and you will serve a nice reheated sausage.

            Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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            • JonathonJ Jonathon

              @LaBarca-cf Since you aren’t using Sure Cure it would be considered fresh here so, you have to get it above 140° in 40 minutes from when you start cooking it. This is to prevent the growth of bacteria and microorganisms that can create issues for you. You will want a thermometer that can tell you the internal temperature of your sausage. We can’t give you a smoke schedule as this isn’t cured and because we dont know what seasoning, meat or casings you are using. I would recommend setting your smoker/grill around 275 and keeping an eye on the first few batches and pulling them when they hit 71° C (160° F).

              If you are going to vac pack them and then put them on ice you might also want to consider using warm water to reheat them. You can just toss the vacuum bag into water that is set to the temp you want to serve your sausage leave it in there for 20 minutes or so and you will serve a nice reheated sausage.

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              KansasDad
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              Jonathon @LaBarca-cf What I take Jonathon is saying is that you might just want to “pre-grill” your fresh sausages all the way up to full cooked temperature (71 C/160 F) and then bag them. Store them on ice until you are ready to serve them. When you get ready to serve them, throw them, bag and all, into a 160 F/71 C kettle of water for 20 minutes. Your sausages will be serving temperature, smoky and delicious. You will also bypass any chance of serving bad meat. This will work especially well if you have a vacuum bag sealer. If not, slowly work the air out of a ziploc bag and seal that as well as you can.

              let us know if any of this is helpful.

              SRL

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              • LaBarca.cfL Offline
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                LaBarca.cf
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                #8

                Sorry, but conversation changed in some point in here…

                I want to smoke this fresh coarse chopped meat sausage to get that special flavour and color skin…

                Grill we do have in whole city…>

                I mean, to grill just to heat up the food for sales…

                Very good advice about warm water many thanks for that…

                I have no access to Sausage production, as I buy it from meat store only.

                Is there possible to smoke that still?

                By the way, I will show you how converting my grill to pitsmoke very soon…

                It’s under construction for next 10 days

                SO I will take it and start laboratory before take streets for sales…

                This is my mini Foodtruck deal.

                https://sites.google.com/view/labarca/home

                Thanks for support Folks!

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                • LaBarca.cfL LaBarca.cf

                  Sorry, but conversation changed in some point in here…

                  I want to smoke this fresh coarse chopped meat sausage to get that special flavour and color skin…

                  Grill we do have in whole city…>

                  I mean, to grill just to heat up the food for sales…

                  Very good advice about warm water many thanks for that…

                  I have no access to Sausage production, as I buy it from meat store only.

                  Is there possible to smoke that still?

                  By the way, I will show you how converting my grill to pitsmoke very soon…

                  It’s under construction for next 10 days

                  SO I will take it and start laboratory before take streets for sales…

                  This is my mini Foodtruck deal.

                  https://sites.google.com/view/labarca/home

                  Thanks for support Folks!

                  Joe HellJ Offline
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                  Joe Hell
                  Team Blue
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @LaBarca-cf Do you have pictures of any of your food? I think I’d like to eat all of it!. Is that a Brazilian Lasagna you are selling?

                  Better Living Through BBQ!

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                  • LaBarca.cfL Offline
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                    LaBarca.cf
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                    #10

                    About Lasagna will be frozen one from traditional markets… just to enjoy the fire a bit more and offer kind of pasta…

                    I was in the route with my friend instagram

                    Bikers n BBQ

                    Many pics there from our last 30 days (3 events) season.

                    Now, I will have my own biz smaller and ready made sausage just to heat and sell.

                    Hard to smoke fresh meat looks like

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                    • LaBarca.cfL LaBarca.cf

                      About Lasagna will be frozen one from traditional markets… just to enjoy the fire a bit more and offer kind of pasta…

                      I was in the route with my friend instagram

                      Bikers n BBQ

                      Many pics there from our last 30 days (3 events) season.

                      Now, I will have my own biz smaller and ready made sausage just to heat and sell.

                      Hard to smoke fresh meat looks like

                      Joe HellJ Offline
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                      Joe Hell
                      Team Blue
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      @LaBarca-cf You could get a little smoke flavor by using hardwood coal and/or adding wood to your fire. If you are going with an offset style grill it should be pretty easy. There is also Hickory Smoke Powder you can buy from Walton’s that would give flavor but still allow you to cook quickly and safely.

                      https://www.waltonsinc.com/hickory-smoke-powder

                      Better Living Through BBQ!

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                      • JonathonJ Offline
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                        Jonathon
                        Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        @LaBarca-cf like Joe Hell said you can still get some smoked flavoring by just adding lump wood or wood chips to your smoker. The Hickory Smoke Powder would work as well. The issue is without I would not recommend cooking/smoking it at low temperatures to start off. You run too high of a risk of getting people sick with food poisoning and if you are trying to make a business out of this then getting people sick will stop anyone from eating at your cart more than once.

                        So, adding wood chips/lump wood and using hickory smoke powder will help with the taste and if you cook them over wood you should still get some color, it just wouldn’t be what we would consider a true smoked sausage here.

                        Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                          Agreed. I will mix smoke

                          30 minutes 130 C and later 30 minutes 71 C

                          After that will finished 100% grill on fire…

                          I hope to get flavour and safety even to take in refrigerator

                          Sorry for boring,

                          I will talk to my meat guy if possible to cure all my coarse chopped meat

                          only for me in this case.

                          If positive reply, I will start back smoking topic

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