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  • RafterWR RafterW

    Midwest_kc johnsbrewhouse you guys have got the hook ups!

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    RafterW How far are you from Oklahoma City, they have a US Foods/Chiefs store there. It looks like you are probably 100 miles away and might not be worth the trip for the price savings. I drive 18 miles to shop there.

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      OKC is about 3 hours johnsbrewhouse, I’m less than an hour from Wichita. Good to know for when I travel through though. Thank you.

      Matt W.

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      • RafterWR RafterW

        Just ordered 3 whole bellies this morning (~ 42 lbs…should be good for a while). Picking up Wednesday. Skin off @ $4.09/lb! Best deal I’ve come across in a while. I’ll post up my method, photos and recipe in this thread for those who are interested.

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        RafterW
        $2.04lb a week ago. Yes, still kicking myself.

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        • RafterWR RafterW

          Just ordered 3 whole bellies this morning (~ 42 lbs…should be good for a while). Picking up Wednesday. Skin off @ $4.09/lb! Best deal I’ve come across in a while. I’ll post up my method, photos and recipe in this thread for those who are interested.

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          RafterW I’m ready. Already got you bookmarked.

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          • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

            I actually have a catering for pork belly burnt ends coming up, so I called my distributor this morning to get pricing. $2.75/lb, so I ordered some extra to have some to use for makin’ bacon.

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            Midwest_kc I would love to find them for that price. The last I saw they were 6.49 a lb. I just can’t do that.

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              Midwest_kc I would love to find them for that price. The last I saw they were 6.49 a lb. I just can’t do that.

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              cdavis ouch! Yeah, I wouldn’t be interested at that price either. My Costco had them for $3.99/lb not too long ago when I was pricing things out for that catering.

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              • Midwest_kcM Midwest_kc

                cdavis ouch! Yeah, I wouldn’t be interested at that price either. My Costco had them for $3.99/lb not too long ago when I was pricing things out for that catering.

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                Midwest_kc I might could live with that.

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                  Picked up the bellies bright and early this morning before work. Total weight was closer to 35 lbs. They were all right around 11.5 lbs. Good looking slabs though. I think I’m going to cure two of the three this week and hold one until spring or if I run out, whichever is first…Likely the latter!

                  Matt W.

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                  • RafterWR RafterW

                    Picked up the bellies bright and early this morning before work. Total weight was closer to 35 lbs. They were all right around 11.5 lbs. Good looking slabs though. I think I’m going to cure two of the three this week and hold one until spring or if I run out, whichever is first…Likely the latter!

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                    RafterW sounds like a good plan. Good luck 👍

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                      #21

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                      Lay out what you are going to need, not pictured is my knife. Get a sharp knife. I like the Waltons boning knife. It’s great for trimming silver skin and can cut the slabs down, no problem.

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                      Next up, you need to mix up your cure. I like the cure in this charcuterie book. It’s very informative. Note there are two cure recipes. One for granulated sugar, one for dextrose. It’s best to use the weight rather than the volumetric measurements, for accuracy. I mix up a pound and store it in a container for later use. Makes things quicker next time around.

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                      Portion up your subprimals next, based on how many different version you want to make and what bags you have. 2 gallon freezer bags will fit 1/2 a belly. 1/4 bellies will fit in 1 gallon bags.

                      Put your portioned subprimals in each bag and weigh them individually. I use grams.

                      Add 2.5% cure mixture to the bag, based off of meatblock weight of each bag.

                      At this point you can add whatever. I added about 1/4 cup maple syrup to a few. For a more savory flavor I added fresh cracked black pepper, crushed garlic and bay leaf.

                      I’ll freshly grind black pepper to rub on some of these before they hit the smoker.

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                      Place in fridge for 5-7 days. Could even be longer if you’ve got thick slabs. Flip and give each bag a good shake daily. Press a finger in the meat each day to see how the firmness changes. You’ll end up with a firm piece of meat by the end. If it’s still pretty squishy at the end of 7 days, keep going for upto two more days. I find most of my commercially raised bellies take 6 to 7 days.

                      Matt W.

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                        You may find that some
                        Recipes say to trim the bellies square, I prefer to leave mine how they come. I trim off the ends after they cure and smoke. The ends make great lardons when cubed, excellent in salads, soups/stews and side dishes.

                        Matt W.

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                        • RafterWR RafterW

                          8458FDE4-FE6E-4036-B451-3D466E303778.jpeg

                          Lay out what you are going to need, not pictured is my knife. Get a sharp knife. I like the Waltons boning knife. It’s great for trimming silver skin and can cut the slabs down, no problem.

                          7A147C19-F8EE-47E4-982C-B39923690106.jpeg
                          D1FFC46B-41B6-4D6E-90D1-4FC1D4619872.jpeg

                          Next up, you need to mix up your cure. I like the cure in this charcuterie book. It’s very informative. Note there are two cure recipes. One for granulated sugar, one for dextrose. It’s best to use the weight rather than the volumetric measurements, for accuracy. I mix up a pound and store it in a container for later use. Makes things quicker next time around.

                          7A293331-AFAC-4D06-B896-9B48B03CD7E8.jpeg
                          A00A73AF-62D6-4B36-B636-81863120FAC8.jpeg

                          Portion up your subprimals next, based on how many different version you want to make and what bags you have. 2 gallon freezer bags will fit 1/2 a belly. 1/4 bellies will fit in 1 gallon bags.

                          Put your portioned subprimals in each bag and weigh them individually. I use grams.

                          Add 2.5% cure mixture to the bag, based off of meatblock weight of each bag.

                          At this point you can add whatever. I added about 1/4 cup maple syrup to a few. For a more savory flavor I added fresh cracked black pepper, crushed garlic and bay leaf.

                          I’ll freshly grind black pepper to rub on some of these before they hit the smoker.

                          701135F8-184E-4AE0-856E-266DDB78F5D0.jpeg

                          Place in fridge for 5-7 days. Could even be longer if you’ve got thick slabs. Flip and give each bag a good shake daily. Press a finger in the meat each day to see how the firmness changes. You’ll end up with a firm piece of meat by the end. If it’s still pretty squishy at the end of 7 days, keep going for upto two more days. I find most of my commercially raised bellies take 6 to 7 days.

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                          RafterW great post thank you very much.

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                            #24

                            cdavis thank you. I will post up the next steps in the process after the bellies have cured. I’ve been seeing some posts about how much cure to use and salty bacon. The amount of cure used per belly is quite small with this recipe. The half bellies (about 2.7kg each) only took about 60 grams each of cure, which is only about 4 tablespoons as I was weighing it out.

                            Matt W.

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                            • RafterWR RafterW

                              cdavis thank you. I will post up the next steps in the process after the bellies have cured. I’ve been seeing some posts about how much cure to use and salty bacon. The amount of cure used per belly is quite small with this recipe. The half bellies (about 2.7kg each) only took about 60 grams each of cure, which is only about 4 tablespoons as I was weighing it out.

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                              RafterW thanks I can’t wait to see the rest of it.

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                              • RafterWR RafterW

                                8458FDE4-FE6E-4036-B451-3D466E303778.jpeg

                                Lay out what you are going to need, not pictured is my knife. Get a sharp knife. I like the Waltons boning knife. It’s great for trimming silver skin and can cut the slabs down, no problem.

                                7A147C19-F8EE-47E4-982C-B39923690106.jpeg
                                D1FFC46B-41B6-4D6E-90D1-4FC1D4619872.jpeg

                                Next up, you need to mix up your cure. I like the cure in this charcuterie book. It’s very informative. Note there are two cure recipes. One for granulated sugar, one for dextrose. It’s best to use the weight rather than the volumetric measurements, for accuracy. I mix up a pound and store it in a container for later use. Makes things quicker next time around.

                                7A293331-AFAC-4D06-B896-9B48B03CD7E8.jpeg
                                A00A73AF-62D6-4B36-B636-81863120FAC8.jpeg

                                Portion up your subprimals next, based on how many different version you want to make and what bags you have. 2 gallon freezer bags will fit 1/2 a belly. 1/4 bellies will fit in 1 gallon bags.

                                Put your portioned subprimals in each bag and weigh them individually. I use grams.

                                Add 2.5% cure mixture to the bag, based off of meatblock weight of each bag.

                                At this point you can add whatever. I added about 1/4 cup maple syrup to a few. For a more savory flavor I added fresh cracked black pepper, crushed garlic and bay leaf.

                                I’ll freshly grind black pepper to rub on some of these before they hit the smoker.

                                701135F8-184E-4AE0-856E-266DDB78F5D0.jpeg

                                Place in fridge for 5-7 days. Could even be longer if you’ve got thick slabs. Flip and give each bag a good shake daily. Press a finger in the meat each day to see how the firmness changes. You’ll end up with a firm piece of meat by the end. If it’s still pretty squishy at the end of 7 days, keep going for upto two more days. I find most of my commercially raised bellies take 6 to 7 days.

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                                RafterW great post thanks for the work on this.

                                “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                                  I really wanted to make my sweet heat version but didn’t have sriracha. I might pick up some today and add it to one of the maple cures. Its pretty tasty! Crushed chili peppers and paprika go on top of that one before hitting the smoker.

                                  Matt W.

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                                    RafterW That is a good price, while at Costco last week, I saw it was $4.49/lb.

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                                    HerbcoFood I just picked some up last week at my “nearest” Costco. It is over 1 hour away. But it is the cheapest I have ever seen it at $3.69/lb. Too bad they didn’t have much to choose from. I grabbed 2 anyway because I could pass up that price and I need to do some testing in the pk100

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                                    • RafterWR RafterW

                                      I really wanted to make my sweet heat version but didn’t have sriracha. I might pick up some today and add it to one of the maple cures. Its pretty tasty! Crushed chili peppers and paprika go on top of that one before hitting the smoker.

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                                      RafterW great post. Love the idea of sriracha Thanks

                                      “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                                        RafterW great post. Love the idea of sriracha Thanks

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                                        Surg I’ll be firing up the smoker tonight and slicing/packaging tomorrow so there will be more images and descriptions to come. Thanks!

                                        Matt W.

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                                          The bellies went in the smoker last night and are now bacon. Refrigerated overnight night. I will slice and package today. Smoked to IT of 140F. Sampled a piece off an end, salt and flavor was spot on. Should total to about 20lb of sliced bacon and a lb or two of lardons from the rough ends, considerably better tasting than store bought and less expensive than even the cheapest packages at the store.

                                          Matt W.

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