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  • JonathonJ Offline
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    Tex_77 Austin and I have talked about doing brisket in the Sous Vide before yes. We just need to do it and we might have time in the next few weeks. My only fear would be that without any bark on it doing it sous vide…so youd have to finish it up on a grill or something? We planned on using Pa’s Black Bull injection with just a touch of liquid smoke.

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    • JonathonJ Jonathon

      Tex_77 Austin and I have talked about doing brisket in the Sous Vide before yes. We just need to do it and we might have time in the next few weeks. My only fear would be that without any bark on it doing it sous vide…so youd have to finish it up on a grill or something? We planned on using Pa’s Black Bull injection with just a touch of liquid smoke.

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      Jonathon Throw it on a rack on a sheet pan, place it in a 500+ degree oven and you’ll have a crust in no time!

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        Last week I borrowed an Anova ‘Precision’ Sous Vide and cooked nearly every meal with it. I made boneless skinless Chicken thighs, Chuck Eye steak, Tri-Tip, Pork Chops, Apple Blue Cheese and Sage Brats and fresh local Asparagus. All the meat was finished on the grill. Everything turned out fine but there are a few things I would critique with this technique.

        Texture: Sous Vide changes the texture of meat. There is no avoiding this. With tough cuts of Beef that could be a good thing. With pork and particularly Chicken. Both turned out good. Both were juicy. Both were flavorful. Both were…weird. I’m on the fence with the texture of Pork sometimes as is. I’ve never had much issue with Chicken unless it was under cooked and that’s exactly what it reminded me of. This time it wasn’t due to not getting the meat to temp. It was the cooking method. Overall the meat was fine and I finished all of it but I won’t be using Sous Vide on Chicken ever again. Same goes for Pork. The results were similar but the texture was not favorable. Damn you Sous Vide.

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        Crust or Bark: After the cooking all of the previously mentioned meats I finished them on a searing hot grill. While everything came out tasty and picture perfect it didn’t quite have that crusty, caramelized exterior I enjoy in a steak. When you pull the meat from the Sous Vide it has been cooked in it’s own juices. While flavorful this makes it nearly impossible to get a good crust on the grill. Pan searing might be the way to go. It was good but not great. The Chuck Eye was super tender. The Tri Tip was already cut into small-ish pieces from the butcher so I prepared them as kabobs. They turned out great but could probably used a bit more time. That might be one I revisit in the future.

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        The good: The brats and sausage turned out perfectly. I’ve never made brats that retained so much of the juices. They were perfect. Likewise the asparagus was perfect. They turned a vibrant green and were still crisp but cooked through. If I decide to pull the trigger on a Sous Vide of my own, brats and veggies will be in the regular rotation.

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        Tonight I made another Chuck Eye and a filet of catfish using the Sous Vide. This time I used a blackening seasoning and finished both in a smoking hot pan of clarified butter and fresh thyme. The pan gave the steak a great crust. This particular cut wasn’t the greatest but it still managed to be a decent steak although it was pretty fatty. The fish was crusty and perfectly flaky. I ended up making fish tacos with a horseradish slaw, avocado and cotija cheese.

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        • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

          Tonight I made another Chuck Eye and a filet of catfish using the Sous Vide. This time I used a blackening seasoning and finished both in a smoking hot pan of clarified butter and fresh thyme. The pan gave the steak a great crust. This particular cut wasn’t the greatest but it still managed to be a decent steak although it was pretty fatty. The fish was crusty and perfectly flaky. I ended up making fish tacos with a horseradish slaw, avocado and cotija cheese.

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          Joe Hell is there a video on this sous vide? Have no clue what it is and dont understand why one would do this technique

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          • twilliamsT twilliams

            Joe Hell is there a video on this sous vide? Have no clue what it is and dont understand why one would do this technique

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            wrote on last edited by
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            twilliams check out “sous vide everything” channel on YouTube. link text

            Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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            • twilliamsT twilliams

              Joe Hell is there a video on this sous vide? Have no clue what it is and dont understand why one would do this technique

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              #25

              twilliams The link that Tex_77 posted is a good one. I’ve watched many of those videos. I’m not completely sold on the Sous Vide yet but I’m determined to make the best out of my time borrowing this one.

              Better Living Through BBQ!

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              • Tex_77T Tex_77

                twilliams check out “sous vide everything” channel on YouTube. link text

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                Tex_77 will give it a watch, thanks

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                • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

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                  Last week I borrowed an Anova ‘Precision’ Sous Vide and cooked nearly every meal with it. I made boneless skinless Chicken thighs, Chuck Eye steak, Tri-Tip, Pork Chops, Apple Blue Cheese and Sage Brats and fresh local Asparagus. All the meat was finished on the grill. Everything turned out fine but there are a few things I would critique with this technique.

                  Texture: Sous Vide changes the texture of meat. There is no avoiding this. With tough cuts of Beef that could be a good thing. With pork and particularly Chicken. Both turned out good. Both were juicy. Both were flavorful. Both were…weird. I’m on the fence with the texture of Pork sometimes as is. I’ve never had much issue with Chicken unless it was under cooked and that’s exactly what it reminded me of. This time it wasn’t due to not getting the meat to temp. It was the cooking method. Overall the meat was fine and I finished all of it but I won’t be using Sous Vide on Chicken ever again. Same goes for Pork. The results were similar but the texture was not favorable. Damn you Sous Vide.

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                  lemon chicken.jpg

                  Crust or Bark: After the cooking all of the previously mentioned meats I finished them on a searing hot grill. While everything came out tasty and picture perfect it didn’t quite have that crusty, caramelized exterior I enjoy in a steak. When you pull the meat from the Sous Vide it has been cooked in it’s own juices. While flavorful this makes it nearly impossible to get a good crust on the grill. Pan searing might be the way to go. It was good but not great. The Chuck Eye was super tender. The Tri Tip was already cut into small-ish pieces from the butcher so I prepared them as kabobs. They turned out great but could probably used a bit more time. That might be one I revisit in the future.

                  IMG_2770.jpg

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                  The good: The brats and sausage turned out perfectly. I’ve never made brats that retained so much of the juices. They were perfect. Likewise the asparagus was perfect. They turned a vibrant green and were still crisp but cooked through. If I decide to pull the trigger on a Sous Vide of my own, brats and veggies will be in the regular rotation.

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                  #27

                  Last night I started another chicken for the open fire pit and figured I would try the Sous Vide on the giblets. I gave those to my dad and he will get back to me on the results.

                  Tonight I started a deli style roast beef using some eye of round I picked up today. I used the pepper and garlic jerky seasoning as a rub and injected with Pa’s soluble Black Bull and cold phosphate. I “pre-seared” the roast and deglazed the pan with more Black Bull then trussed with twine and vacuum sealed with fresh garlic and rosemary and adding the pan Jus.

                  I’ll cook 24 hours at 140 then I will finish it by the same method I use to cook the chicken tomorrow.

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                  • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                    Last night I started another chicken for the open fire pit and figured I would try the Sous Vide on the giblets. I gave those to my dad and he will get back to me on the results.

                    Tonight I started a deli style roast beef using some eye of round I picked up today. I used the pepper and garlic jerky seasoning as a rub and injected with Pa’s soluble Black Bull and cold phosphate. I “pre-seared” the roast and deglazed the pan with more Black Bull then trussed with twine and vacuum sealed with fresh garlic and rosemary and adding the pan Jus.

                    I’ll cook 24 hours at 140 then I will finish it by the same method I use to cook the chicken tomorrow.

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                    Joe Hell Why did you choose to pre-sear vs post sear? Also nice trussing!

                    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                    • Tex_77T Tex_77

                      Joe Hell Why did you choose to pre-sear vs post sear? Also nice trussing!

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                      Tex_77 I read that the pre-sear results in a deeper flavor due to the caramelization and long cook time. The Jus is amazing! I have now pulled it from the Sous Vide and I’m doing a second sear in my fire pit. Check out the link…it’s almost like being here!

                      https://youtu.be/k-TPe7z0d3M

                      Better Living Through BBQ!

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                      • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

                        Tex_77 I read that the pre-sear results in a deeper flavor due to the caramelization and long cook time. The Jus is amazing! I have now pulled it from the Sous Vide and I’m doing a second sear in my fire pit. Check out the link…it’s almost like being here!

                        https://youtu.be/k-TPe7z0d3M

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                        Joe Hell nice!

                        Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                        • Tex_77T Tex_77

                          Joe Hell nice!

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                          Tex_77 thanks for the trussing compliment! That was the first time I didn’t screw it up. Lol. I used it as a practice run for tying pancetta tomorrow!

                          Better Living Through BBQ!

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                            Joe Hell I very much agree with Tex_77 That is some quality string work there! We are getting ready to put some coppa in the dry curing cabinet and I was going to use Roast Wrap but you have inspired me to try one of them with butchers twine.

                            How was the taste?

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                            • JonathonJ Jonathon

                              Joe Hell I very much agree with Tex_77 That is some quality string work there! We are getting ready to put some coppa in the dry curing cabinet and I was going to use Roast Wrap but you have inspired me to try one of them with butchers twine.

                              How was the taste?

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                              Jonathon It turned out excellent despite taking it a few degrees warmer than I intended. The meat was very moist and had a great garlicky flavor throughout with plenty herbal notes from the rosemary. The juices left over in the bag made a wonderful Au Jus. I made mom a ‘French Dip Kit’ with fresh baked bread and smoked ‘Cougar Viking’ cheese for mothers day which she shared with my grandparents. Grandma laid claim to all of the leftovers. lol.

                              In regards to the cheese…Washington State University makes some of the best cheese I’ve ever had. It comes in a can and it’s absolutely amazing!

                              https://creamery.wsu.edu/cougar-cheese/flavors/

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                                Joe Hell Cheese in a can? You have started a debate in my office, I now must see a picture of the actual cheese. Two people in here (i am one) find this very odd and cant wrap our heads around it, the 3rd person is acting like this is the most normal thing in the world!

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                                  Joe Hell Cheese in a can? You have started a debate in my office, I now must see a picture of the actual cheese. Two people in here (i am one) find this very odd and cant wrap our heads around it, the 3rd person is acting like this is the most normal thing in the world!

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                                  Jonathon It is so very, very good. I believe it was developed during the first World War as there wasn’t a better alternative to ensure it wouldn’t go bad before it reached the troops. The prices online from the link below are far better than what I can buy locally. I’d suggest you guys order before the weather gets too hot! You won’t be sorry!
                                  http://cougarcheese.wsu.edu/DirectionsWEB/webcart_category.php#CHEESE

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                                    Joe Hell Learn something new every day. I think I just might order some just to see what it is like!

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                                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                      Joe Hell Learn something new every day. I think I just might order some just to see what it is like!

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                                      Jonathon The Cougar Gold is my personal favorite and likely their most popular. All of them are excellent though. I haven’t tried any of the pepper varieties or the smoked one.

                                      Better Living Through BBQ!

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                                        Here is a steak I cooked sous vide last night. I seasoned it with Oakridge BBQ Carne Crosta Steakhouse Rub, then vacuumed sealed it, and put it in the sous vide at 123 for about an hour. After that I took them out and put a coating of mayonnaise on them, then seared them off in a cast iron pan on the stove, and hit them with some finishing salt. The results speak for themselves.
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                                          Here is a steak I cooked sous vide last night. I seasoned it with Oakridge BBQ Carne Crosta Steakhouse Rub, then vacuumed sealed it, and put it in the sous vide at 123 for about an hour. After that I took them out and put a coating of mayonnaise on them, then seared them off in a cast iron pan on the stove, and hit them with some finishing salt. The results speak for themselves.
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                                          Tex_77 Oh my! That looks perfectly crusty! I’ll have to try the mayo technique!

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