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curing and smoking whole venison backstrap ?

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    RandyNight
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    I like to make pastrami from backstrap and also venison roasts. It seems the amount of pink salt (cure) is excessive, but I have been told that is what is needed in a brine as opposed to actually mixing into the meat as when making sausage.
    I have have not been able to smoke backstrap without it becoming too dry, pastrami prevents that and since we use it for snack meat instead of a main meat course it lasts longer.
    Made some gator meat into pastrami also, was almost as good as venison.

    Grandpa butchered 80 hogs the year he was 80. I buy pork butts to make sausage.

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      Might add that I have been told venison likely only needs about 3-4 days in brine compared to 5 for beef. I rinse after brining and then soak couple hours in water only, then change water and soak overnight to remove some of the saltiness.

      Grandpa butchered 80 hogs the year he was 80. I buy pork butts to make sausage.

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        Jonathon
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        @Curtis-p On the sure cure 1/2 a cup is 24 tsp. There are 6 tsp (about) per package of sure cure which is enough to cure 25 lb of meat. I would be leery of adding that much cure to a gallon of meat. The fact that you just brined it and did not inject means you are probably fine but if you try that again I would add less cure. Unless your pink cure is less strong than the sure cure we use. Sure Cure is 6.25% sodium nitrite.

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          Jonathon
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          schultzgang How would you make your backstrap? I love smoking mine but I dont brine, I just marinade. If anyone has a different or cool way they do that let us know!

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            Guess I must be a purist when it comes to a venison backstrap. Weber grill, Kingsford original, quick sear, salt and pepper, then indirect to 130 deg. Rest, slice and enjoy.

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              Joe Hell
              thanks for the info, I had not heard of this until 3 years ago and I think the reason it was brined was to cure or preserve it while
              frozen. A friend of a friend makes these after hunting season so they can be taken out of the freezer and sliced up for snacks and they are fantastic but he wont share the recipe. When they are unthawed even after many months they are still perfect.
              Have you tried freezing any portion and is it still as good when first made?

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              @Curtis-p
              Look up a Bresaola recipe I’m betting that is what his secret is. Whole cured muscle that is amazingly tender and flavorful. Any of the recipes for beef version will work for venison and there are several variations all of which turn out really well. There are also a few venison specific versions out there. Hank Shaw and Steven Rinella are both at the top of the list. It kinda depends on your willingness to experiment and your comfort level with some of the different techniques. Super easy and the end product makes it look both like you know what you’re doing and like it took way more effort than it does. Cheers

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                @Curtis-p
                Look up a Bresaola recipe I’m betting that is what his secret is. Whole cured muscle that is amazingly tender and flavorful. Any of the recipes for beef version will work for venison and there are several variations all of which turn out really well. There are also a few venison specific versions out there. Hank Shaw and Steven Rinella are both at the top of the list. It kinda depends on your willingness to experiment and your comfort level with some of the different techniques. Super easy and the end product makes it look both like you know what you’re doing and like it took way more effort than it does. Cheers

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                Joe Hell
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                Hosshess Hank Shaw has inspired me to turn my basement into a meat and cheese aging locker and fermentation room. I hope to have it put together by the end of summer.

                Better Living Through BBQ!

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                  Joe Hell Keep us up to date with the entire process, feel free to ask for tips or anything and I will see what our commercial salesmen think and then we can do some sort of post/video of how it all came together!

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                    Hosshess Hank Shaw has inspired me to turn my basement into a meat and cheese aging locker and fermentation room. I hope to have it put together by the end of summer.

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                    Joe Hell nan that is awesome! Hope to see the progress.

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                      Joe Hell nan that is awesome! Hope to see the progress.

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                      Hosshess I may have been overly optimistic on my time frame…could be the following summer. lol. Once you start digging into home projects you are bound to uncover issues.

                      Better Living Through BBQ!

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                        Jonathon
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                        Joe Hell I think I speak for all of meatgistics when I say that is unacceptable sir! Especially with your propensity to go big on things I want to see basically a cigar lounge style dry curing chamber made out of your entire basement!

                        Obviously, I am kidding but do keep us posted!

                        Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                          Joe Hell I think I speak for all of meatgistics when I say that is unacceptable sir! Especially with your propensity to go big on things I want to see basically a cigar lounge style dry curing chamber made out of your entire basement!

                          Obviously, I am kidding but do keep us posted!

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                          Jonathon That’s kinda what I had in mind too! I was taking a closer look at things last night and all I could see was $$$'s. I need to do this on the cheap!

                          Better Living Through BBQ!

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