Self-Reliance: How do you?
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@matt-westerhaus I very much understand and am heading there myself. Connections with other like minded people make things a bit easier
About 90 % finished an old farmhouse. Barn and warehouse complete.
In the process of installing all my commercial equipment. Now can make my own lump coal for reliable smoking and cooking. I now have fruit trees that are producing, so I can always make my pear and pecan pies.
On the bucket list is a well pump that can be used manually if needed. Need a few bee hives. Then converting a portion of the barn to chickens. Would love to have a few ducks, but that’s the chef in me.
I understand where the group is about privacy. I probably don’t worry about it enough. I have several large knifes, meat saw, manual and electric equipment. If anyone makes the poor choice of trying to collect things from my property, well, I’ll just turn them into sausage…
processhead Jonathon Tex_77 Seriously, living in a very small town may have me too trusting. What kind of vulnerabilities do we have with posting on a site such as Meatgistics?
Chef I have done it more than three times now, but apparently was not smart enough to stay put (had to try & make a living). Now doing a restoration this time around rather than a complete new build & I am way behind. Humiliated, but not sure where all my energy I used to have went (still trying to make a dollar). Looks like a chicken hawk or something got our best Dominicker rooster this morning sometime. Looks like he must have put up a heck of a fight. Send us photos when you get the ol house & barn restored. I am sure that will be amazing.
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calldoctoday said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
processhead It just about aught to be a requirement for hunting. How can you possibly understand your weapon & be familiar with it so that you can take the best shots possible in the field, without at least some practice on the range, if not extensive practice. All you could rely on otherwise is luck & me & luck have never got along too well apparently.
In Nebraska, and maybe elsewhere, you can’t get a hunting license unless you have had hunter education. There is an exemption for older adults, but at least it is getting the kids started out on the right foot.
processhead They have it here too. They even offer it in high school. I am exempt, but I would take it myself, first chance I can, as I know there is always something to learn there.
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calldoctoday said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
processhead It just about aught to be a requirement for hunting. How can you possibly understand your weapon & be familiar with it so that you can take the best shots possible in the field, without at least some practice on the range, if not extensive practice. All you could rely on otherwise is luck & me & luck have never got along too well apparently.
In Nebraska, and maybe elsewhere, you can’t get a hunting license unless you have had hunter education. There is an exemption for older adults, but at least it is getting the kids started out on the right foot.
processhead said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
calldoctoday said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
processhead It just about aught to be a requirement for hunting. How can you possibly understand your weapon & be familiar with it so that you can take the best shots possible in the field, without at least some practice on the range, if not extensive practice. All you could rely on otherwise is luck & me & luck have never got along too well apparently.
In Nebraska, and maybe elsewhere, you can’t get a hunting license unless you have had hunter education. There is an exemption for older adults, but at least it is getting the kids started out on the right foot.
I believe Wisconsin is the same unless there’s been a recent change. I went through it, my three sons have and so will the grandkids one day. Absolutely essential. Everyone should, even if you don’t hunt or are thinking about personal protection.
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processhead said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
calldoctoday said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
processhead It just about aught to be a requirement for hunting. How can you possibly understand your weapon & be familiar with it so that you can take the best shots possible in the field, without at least some practice on the range, if not extensive practice. All you could rely on otherwise is luck & me & luck have never got along too well apparently.
In Nebraska, and maybe elsewhere, you can’t get a hunting license unless you have had hunter education. There is an exemption for older adults, but at least it is getting the kids started out on the right foot.
I believe Wisconsin is the same unless there’s been a recent change. I went through it, my three sons have and so will the grandkids one day. Absolutely essential. Everyone should, even if you don’t hunt or are thinking about personal protection.
PapaSop kids under 12 can hunt with a mentor as long as only one gun is in your possession. Once you hit 12 years old, you have to have hunters ed. Thought behind it was to get kids hooked on hunting before the commitment of taking a class.
hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!
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PapaSop kids under 12 can hunt with a mentor as long as only one gun is in your possession. Once you hit 12 years old, you have to have hunters ed. Thought behind it was to get kids hooked on hunting before the commitment of taking a class.
kyle said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
PapaSop kids under 12 can hunt with a mentor as long as only one gun is in your possession. Once you hit 12 years old, you have to have hunters ed. Thought behind it was to get kids hooked on hunting before the commitment of taking a class.
Same here. Really a good idea to have them out with a responsible adult anyway when just starting out.
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bocephus I have found the women are better at it with a little practice than we are. Excellent point on the .22 as well.
calldoctoday seeing many shooters in my military career I completely agree that women are better marksmen when trained as a whole in a range environment, but unfortunately their weakness becomes very apparent in the fast target acquisition and kill shots of close quarters combat.
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calldoctoday seeing many shooters in my military career I completely agree that women are better marksmen when trained as a whole in a range environment, but unfortunately their weakness becomes very apparent in the fast target acquisition and kill shots of close quarters combat.
mrobisr said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
calldoctoday seeing many shooters in my military career I completely agree that women are better marksmen when trained as a whole in a range environment, but unfortunately their weakness becomes very apparent in the fast target acquisition and kill shots of close quarters combat.
Any theories on your observations of CQC
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Jonathon Man, you shot Flint Oaks for your first clay-shoot! That’s a heck of a place. I shot sporting clays, trap and skeet in college. Went to nationals on a couple occasions outside of San Antonio. Flint Oaks is a crazy nice facility! I can relate to the not having a place to shoot, that one thing that has kept me from buying a long-range rifle. I’ve got some short range targets set up at my place now, can at least plink and check zero’s at 100 yrds. Shooting has gotten very expensive and ammo is still hard to come by, much harder than it should be. I didn’t dove hunt this year because of how difficult 12 gauge shells are to find.
RafterW Did you ever shoot the Grand when it was held in Dayton/Vandalia Ohio?
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Ridley Acres Agree with you there. It was interesting to watch the bees. The crazy cost of the bees as they became trendy to do is nuts. Our hives would take a beating every year. The late winter storms and cold, wet springs would do in at least half of our hives that made it through the winter. Finally gave it up after 10+ years, maybe will re-attack after a break.
YooperDog Ridley Acres keeping that balance is huge. We were lucky enough to meet a gent who is 80 years old, a retired electrical engineer and been a bee keeper for most of his life. Here is the kicker, he raises the bees to keep the local bee genetics intact in hopes of keeping the bee population healthier. He is posterboy of the term “bee whisperer”. My oldest son travels across the state helping him with the hive maintenance on his hives, which is about 70 hives throughout the state. He is the person who taught us how to trap local hives. Both of our current hives were trapped and I plan on never buying a package again. Its great that there are people like him more interested in the bees, than pulling honey. I have to admit, I’m in it for the honey and the pollination on my property, but meeting this guy definitely gave me a different view on how I manage our hives. The honey isn’t my priority anymore. Beekeeping can definitely “bee” frustrating at times. A friend and coworker got me started keeping bees. In reference to swarming and the overall experience, he warned me early on by saying “at the end of the day, they are insects and will do what they want”.
I have attached a link for a YouTube video from the Ohio State Bee Keeper’s Association of our mentor and friend Dwight.
https://youtu.be/z97joaP6TTo“You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”
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YooperDog Ridley Acres keeping that balance is huge. We were lucky enough to meet a gent who is 80 years old, a retired electrical engineer and been a bee keeper for most of his life. Here is the kicker, he raises the bees to keep the local bee genetics intact in hopes of keeping the bee population healthier. He is posterboy of the term “bee whisperer”. My oldest son travels across the state helping him with the hive maintenance on his hives, which is about 70 hives throughout the state. He is the person who taught us how to trap local hives. Both of our current hives were trapped and I plan on never buying a package again. Its great that there are people like him more interested in the bees, than pulling honey. I have to admit, I’m in it for the honey and the pollination on my property, but meeting this guy definitely gave me a different view on how I manage our hives. The honey isn’t my priority anymore. Beekeeping can definitely “bee” frustrating at times. A friend and coworker got me started keeping bees. In reference to swarming and the overall experience, he warned me early on by saying “at the end of the day, they are insects and will do what they want”.
I have attached a link for a YouTube video from the Ohio State Bee Keeper’s Association of our mentor and friend Dwight.
https://youtu.be/z97joaP6TToGWG8541 Agree. We did it for the same, honey, pollination and trying to keep the population viable in the area. The cost of buying nuc’s, and such started getting crazy and we started trapping. My wife has gotten some health issues which made things difficult. We had some great mentors and still remain in contact and may some day re-attack. We did the same and paid it forward with a family who wanted to get started with bee keeping and they are having a blast., Lots of questions and enjoying their new hobby. The crazy thing is that we have more honey bees now than we have ever seen, don’t know where they are coming from, but glad to see them.
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mrobisr said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
calldoctoday seeing many shooters in my military career I completely agree that women are better marksmen when trained as a whole in a range environment, but unfortunately their weakness becomes very apparent in the fast target acquisition and kill shots of close quarters combat.
Any theories on your observations of CQC
processhead processhead men typically have the ability to laser focus on a specific task and women can help but think about a hundred other things they need to do. The exact reason my wife can run the home so efficiently all while cooking, clothes washing and drying, putting up groceries, and then helping all three kids and this is all within a thirty second time span.
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RafterW It is hard to explain, but the property the Grand was done on, was Dayton Airport property, which is annexed land north of the city of Dayton in a town called Vandalia. Well the city in its infinite wisdom started passing anti gun laws, so they moved west to Sparta, Ill in 2005. They official reason given was for expansion of the airport. Nothing like government bureaucracy to ruin a good thing. It was in Dayton from 1924 to 2005.
“You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”
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RafterW It is hard to explain, but the property the Grand was done on, was Dayton Airport property, which is annexed land north of the city of Dayton in a town called Vandalia. Well the city in its infinite wisdom started passing anti gun laws, so they moved west to Sparta, Ill in 2005. They official reason given was for expansion of the airport. Nothing like government bureaucracy to ruin a good thing. It was in Dayton from 1924 to 2005.
GWG8541 lol man that is crazy. You said it best about bureaucracy. Literally no one in attendance from 1924 to 2005 had ill intent using their firearms.
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RafterW It is hard to explain, but the property the Grand was done on, was Dayton Airport property, which is annexed land north of the city of Dayton in a town called Vandalia. Well the city in its infinite wisdom started passing anti gun laws, so they moved west to Sparta, Ill in 2005. They official reason given was for expansion of the airport. Nothing like government bureaucracy to ruin a good thing. It was in Dayton from 1924 to 2005.
GWG8541 said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:
RafterW It is hard to explain, but the property the Grand was done on, was Dayton Airport property, which is annexed land north of the city of Dayton in a town called Vandalia. Well the city in its infinite wisdom started passing anti gun laws, so they moved west to Sparta, Ill in 2005. They official reason given was for expansion of the airport. Nothing like government bureaucracy to ruin a good thing. It was in Dayton from 1924 to 2005.
Agenda might be a better term than bureaucracy…
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Checked another to-do off of my list on property maintenance/improvements. I wired in a generator plug into our service panel. I have a 10KW generator that I can now hook into the house, when necessary. It runs the water well, HVAC blower, lighting, two refrigerators and two freezers.
The microwave operated well on it, as well as our range/oven.
It’s not quite big enough to serve all the household power demands, the dryer really bogged it down, but didn’t trip a breaker or kill it. All in all, a nice peace-of-mind improvement for the time being. Solar/battery backup is definitely on my mind, long-term.
Matt W.
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Checked another to-do off of my list on property maintenance/improvements. I wired in a generator plug into our service panel. I have a 10KW generator that I can now hook into the house, when necessary. It runs the water well, HVAC blower, lighting, two refrigerators and two freezers.
The microwave operated well on it, as well as our range/oven.
It’s not quite big enough to serve all the household power demands, the dryer really bogged it down, but didn’t trip a breaker or kill it. All in all, a nice peace-of-mind improvement for the time being. Solar/battery backup is definitely on my mind, long-term.
RafterW You don’t need a dryer, you need a clothes line, so I wouldn’t even sweat that. I did see a solar generator/battery bank setup the other day for I think $2,500-3K. I don’t remember the name of the company off of the top of my head, but it sounded like it should handle the major things, and was expandable.
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Tex_77 yeah the dryer was more of a functionality test for the generator to see if there was a load in the house that I could put on it that will trip the kill switch. We inherited the generator, it’s a portable unit. Gasoline consumption is definitely the weak point. Water well, lighting and furnace blower were my main concerns, that should run it at about 50% or less capacity so I should get about 10 hrs a tank on it. Damn thing is noisy though. It will also run my little welder that I can throw on a trailer with it to have a portable welding unit. Thanks, that is interesting on the solar setup. I’ve got a bathroom remodel to finish and I want to get a wood stove put in our living room after the bathroom project. Solar is behind those two items at the moment.
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Checked another to-do off of my list on property maintenance/improvements. I wired in a generator plug into our service panel. I have a 10KW generator that I can now hook into the house, when necessary. It runs the water well, HVAC blower, lighting, two refrigerators and two freezers.
The microwave operated well on it, as well as our range/oven.
It’s not quite big enough to serve all the household power demands, the dryer really bogged it down, but didn’t trip a breaker or kill it. All in all, a nice peace-of-mind improvement for the time being. Solar/battery backup is definitely on my mind, long-term.
RafterW This is a great idea. I have a detached garage which has 10-3 run out to it. Was there when we moved in. Running my table saw, dust collector, lights, and radio nearly exceed this. The pole with the transformer from the power company is within feet of the breaker box in the garage, so I have wanted to add a separate service out there and use the existing 10-3 to act as the supply coming from a generator similar to a switch like you have for some essential services.
I would have a note with the steps below:
- Flip all breakers off
- Switch source load from grid to generator
- Switch essential breakers on in order of importance (and give each breaker a priority number in case you need to back off the load a family member can do so without needing to think too hard)
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RafterW , As you probably already know, most emergency generators see very little use and therefore tend to get little maintenance.
Every emergency generator should be exercised periodically to make sure it is fit for duty when the time comes that it is needed.
Also, replacing the gas every 6 months or so is a good idea since gasoline definitely has a shelf life.
Back when I was still working, we and emergency generators at our remote communication sites. Those generators were programmed to automatically rune every other week. If they didn’t run, we got a remote alarm and were dispatched out to find out why.
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