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Soft Beef Jerky without Sugar

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  • Joe HellJ Joe Hell

    lamurscrappy Dill Pickle sounds weird but everyone I’ve mentioned it to, wants it. The smells from the smoker right now are incredible. It was driving me crazy so I made a breakfast tri-tip to distract me. I’ll be smoking a corned beef this afternoon

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    Joe Hell that looks like I need to do one of those!!!

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      Jonathon will you guys be selling glycerine in your catalog? Do folks just get it on Amazon?

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        Jonathon will you guys be selling glycerine in your catalog? Do folks just get it on Amazon?

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        21cedar I buy it by the gallon on Amazon. A local health food store may carry it too

        Better Living Through BBQ!

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          21cedar We wont be selling it (as far as I know) and it is pretty inexpensive on amazon so I would go that route. Dill pickle is amazing, more people need to try that seasoning and yes like Joe Hell says the littls bit of meat is a welcomed and unexpected treat at the end!

          lamurscrappy I did add water when I used glycerin, 20% but I know some others have been doing it without the 20% water and getting good results. It is all about how much of the solution you can get it to pick up, so if you have a vac tumbler of any kind this is the time to use it. If you don’t have a tumbler (for some reason I think you do) then I would vac seal it and massage it every few hours for about 24 hr to increase your pickup.

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          • JonathonJ Jonathon

            21cedar We wont be selling it (as far as I know) and it is pretty inexpensive on amazon so I would go that route. Dill pickle is amazing, more people need to try that seasoning and yes like Joe Hell says the littls bit of meat is a welcomed and unexpected treat at the end!

            lamurscrappy I did add water when I used glycerin, 20% but I know some others have been doing it without the 20% water and getting good results. It is all about how much of the solution you can get it to pick up, so if you have a vac tumbler of any kind this is the time to use it. If you don’t have a tumbler (for some reason I think you do) then I would vac seal it and massage it every few hours for about 24 hr to increase your pickup.

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            Jonathon I realized after the fact that the amount of glycerine I used was the same amount you guys recommended for the water addition. On my first batch I eye balled enough to make sure that the jerky had enough liquid to cover and it came in right at 8 oz for 5 lbs… The glycerine doesn’t add huge amounts of sweetness but just enough that it really seems to round out and balance the jerky spice.

            Better Living Through BBQ!

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              Joe Hell Yeah, the Glycerine is very good, I happened to find some of the original sugar batch and was able to try them side by side. The Sugar is MUCH sweeter than the glycerine, to the point that I prefer the glycerine vs the sugar. However, I think the sugar one was a touch more tender but this might have been the vacuum tumbling vs the vac sealing?

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              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                Joe Hell Yeah, the Glycerine is very good, I happened to find some of the original sugar batch and was able to try them side by side. The Sugar is MUCH sweeter than the glycerine, to the point that I prefer the glycerine vs the sugar. However, I think the sugar one was a touch more tender but this might have been the vacuum tumbling vs the vac sealing?

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                Jonathon I might have to try another sugar substitute in future batches. There are plenty to choose from.

                Better Living Through BBQ!

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                • JonathonJ Jonathon

                  Joe Hell Yeah, the Glycerine is very good, I happened to find some of the original sugar batch and was able to try them side by side. The Sugar is MUCH sweeter than the glycerine, to the point that I prefer the glycerine vs the sugar. However, I think the sugar one was a touch more tender but this might have been the vacuum tumbling vs the vac sealing?

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                  Jonathon Was there another thread or topic that addressed glycerine and using a vacuum tumbler?

                  Better Living Through BBQ!

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                    Joe Hell Not yet, but there will be, my last experiment with it went very well but I am trying to make it work with home equipment (no vacuum tumbler) so it is useful to home processors. In the next day or two we will be releasing a new video on making tender jerky with home equipment, so for anyone who has been following this thread, I would say that that video will be worth watching.

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                    • JonathonJ Jonathon

                      Joe Hell Not yet, but there will be, my last experiment with it went very well but I am trying to make it work with home equipment (no vacuum tumbler) so it is useful to home processors. In the next day or two we will be releasing a new video on making tender jerky with home equipment, so for anyone who has been following this thread, I would say that that video will be worth watching.

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                      Jonathon I was gifted a small tumbler over the weekend and made a batch of the gigawatt and dill pickle. I ran both through the smoker until I reached 160 and for the first time I finished in the Weston Pro Series 80L dehydrator to outstanding results!

                      Better Living Through BBQ!

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                        Joe Hell Gifted a Vac Tumbler? Do you have a direct line to Santa or something? Send us some pics of the tumbler and your finished product!

                        By the way, I am done with the project that I have been working on for weeks and will FINALLY have some time to organize a bunch of these great pics you guys have been submitting here and posting them to Walton’s and Meatgistics social media pages!

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                        • JonathonJ Jonathon

                          Joe Hell Gifted a Vac Tumbler? Do you have a direct line to Santa or something? Send us some pics of the tumbler and your finished product!

                          By the way, I am done with the project that I have been working on for weeks and will FINALLY have some time to organize a bunch of these great pics you guys have been submitting here and posting them to Walton’s and Meatgistics social media pages!

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                          Jonathon I’ve been making a friend of my dad’s (Uncle Pat) Canadian Bacon lately in exchange for fresh Walleye. He happened to have an extra tumbler and when I offered to purchase he simply gave it to me. It only has a 5 lb capacity which suits me for now. Each rack in my masterbuilt holds the same amount of product so it works out well. I’m pretty excited about my new Weston dehydrator as well. I am starting my largest gardening endeavor this year with plans to dry much of the produce for later use in fresh sausages and other recipes.

                          Better Living Through BBQ!

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                            If i just use my chamber vac will it work as well as a vacuum tumbler? Thoughts?? What if i sealed some jerky and marinade in a mason jar? So many questions, job keeps getting in the way…

                            John C.

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                              If i just use my chamber vac will it work as well as a vacuum tumbler? Thoughts?? What if i sealed some jerky and marinade in a mason jar? So many questions, job keeps getting in the way…

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                              Parksider It would certainly help things but I don’t know how it would directly compare. The mason jar is a good idea!

                              Better Living Through BBQ!

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                                Parksider Sadly, I dont think anything is going to work as well as a vacuum tumbler. The combination of the vacuum and the impact energy from the tumbling works better than really anything else to get your solution into the meat. Most commercial places use a combination of injecting and tumbling and after that, they go directly to the smoker or oven. It is certainly better than nothing though! We should be publishing a video tomorrow where I tested a few methods to see what could be done without a vacuum tumbler or injector.

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                                • JonathonJ Jonathon

                                  Joe Hell Gifted a Vac Tumbler? Do you have a direct line to Santa or something? Send us some pics of the tumbler and your finished product!

                                  By the way, I am done with the project that I have been working on for weeks and will FINALLY have some time to organize a bunch of these great pics you guys have been submitting here and posting them to Walton’s and Meatgistics social media pages!

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                                  Jonathon Here is the tumbler. The brand is ‘Gourmia’…not sure if they make them anymore

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                                  Better Living Through BBQ!

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                                    Joe Hell nice! like the price better!! Jonathon One last shot, how about we inject an eye roast, cut it in half, vacuum seal it??? Just to see if you can get some of the moisture deeper into the meat… May have to give this a shot!

                                    John C.

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                                      Parksider I played around with the idea but in my mind the extra sugar in the mixture would make the injection difficult so I did not purse it any further, I might need to try it though! Also, I flipped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CkUDYgyGVM live today and here is the meatgistics post.

                                      Joe Hell Free is usually the best price point!

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