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Brats dry and crumbly when cooked

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    Jonathon
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    Parksider You are right, I did laugh but not a derisive laugh, it was a good-natured, here he goes with cooking in water again! The thing is, I can’t say you are wrong between your advice on pulling around 140 and finishing up in water and the sponges in the smoker to increase humidity I really think we might be on the verge of a brave new world (in a good way though) of smoking meat products!

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      Parksider You are right, I did laugh but not a derisive laugh, it was a good-natured, here he goes with cooking in water again! The thing is, I can’t say you are wrong between your advice on pulling around 140 and finishing up in water and the sponges in the smoker to increase humidity I really think we might be on the verge of a brave new world (in a good way though) of smoking meat products!

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      Jonathon honestly having a high humidity is key in sausage making and a secret… but… for jerky making too. During part of my jerky cook cycle i increase the humidity as high as i can get it… around 90-95%. The jerky gets to about 185 degrees. Then i drop all humidity open dampers and let it dry out… i make some delicious jerky in about 4 hours and heating up to 185 degrees in high humidity ensures all leathality. If you can add humidity to your smoker youve found the holy grail

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        lamurscrappy What kind of smoker do you have and what are you doing to reaching 90-95% humidity in a home smoker

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          I had that problem so I added 3 ozs of carrot fiber and about a quart of water this was in a 25lb batch. Best sausage I had ever made up to that point. It was very good sausage! Since then I always use carrot fiber and i have not had a dry batch. I’m very proud of the quality of my sausage!

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            lamurscrappy What kind of smoker do you have and what are you doing to reaching 90-95% humidity in a home smoker

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            akdave i got a southern pride dh-65 that ive modified a little. But it has a 1500 watt steam heating element in the bottom. I fill a large pan with about 3/4 inch of water and close dampers fully. Works very well. Ill see if i can get some pics for you.

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            • lamurscrappyL lamurscrappy

              Jonathon honestly having a high humidity is key in sausage making and a secret… but… for jerky making too. During part of my jerky cook cycle i increase the humidity as high as i can get it… around 90-95%. The jerky gets to about 185 degrees. Then i drop all humidity open dampers and let it dry out… i make some delicious jerky in about 4 hours and heating up to 185 degrees in high humidity ensures all leathality. If you can add humidity to your smoker youve found the holy grail

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              lamurscrappy Oh yeah it certainly is! This was one of the reason our tender jerky came out so good that time and the main reason I was so excited for the sponge trick, this should allow home smokers to vastly increase their rh, though still only around by 50% which is a lot better than nothing!@

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              • JonathonJ Jonathon

                lamurscrappy Oh yeah it certainly is! This was one of the reason our tender jerky came out so good that time and the main reason I was so excited for the sponge trick, this should allow home smokers to vastly increase their rh, though still only around by 50% which is a lot better than nothing!@

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                Jonathon Did you ever post a description of how to measure the humidity for the home guys? I’ve never had much issue keeping the humidity high in my Masterbuilt…in fact, it literally drips down the glass in a constant stream.

                Better Living Through BBQ!

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                  Jonathon Did you ever post a description of how to measure the humidity for the home guys? I’ve never had much issue keeping the humidity high in my Masterbuilt…in fact, it literally drips down the glass in a constant stream.

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                  Joe Hell i believe he did a wet bulb video… not sure where at though…

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                  • lamurscrappyL lamurscrappy

                    Joe Hell i believe he did a wet bulb video… not sure where at though…

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                    lamurscrappy that’s what I thought too but I was also having trouble finding it.

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                    • lamurscrappyL lamurscrappy

                      akdave i got a southern pride dh-65 that ive modified a little. But it has a 1500 watt steam heating element in the bottom. I fill a large pan with about 3/4 inch of water and close dampers fully. Works very well. Ill see if i can get some pics for you.

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                      lamurscrappy wo

                      would love some pictures and information on your steam generator…
                      Thanks
                      Dave

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                        lamurscrappy wo

                        would love some pictures and information on your steam generator…
                        Thanks
                        Dave

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                        Heres some pics.
                        1st off its pretty seasoned and i do need to clean it lol
                        So i installed a larger vent port up top. In the bottom you can see the steam element and another element for my smoke box. I will use a large pan with about 3/4 inch of water in it. It creates a lot of steam. On the top of the smoker is a toggle switch i installed to turn the steam element on or off.

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                          Joe Hell Here is the article and video https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/1099/cured-sausage-205-advanced-thermal-processing. To actually measure it you need some specialized equipment that can measure the Wet Bulb and Dry bulb temps. I used some Madgetech loggers that we had as we used t sell them, we don’t anymore but not because we don’t like them, they sell directly to end users and it was just simpler to let people go directly to them.

                          Anyway, if you want to measure the RH I can’t think of another way to do it than that, can anyone else?

                          Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                          • JonathonJ Jonathon

                            Joe Hell Here is the article and video https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/1099/cured-sausage-205-advanced-thermal-processing. To actually measure it you need some specialized equipment that can measure the Wet Bulb and Dry bulb temps. I used some Madgetech loggers that we had as we used t sell them, we don’t anymore but not because we don’t like them, they sell directly to end users and it was just simpler to let people go directly to them.

                            Anyway, if you want to measure the RH I can’t think of another way to do it than that, can anyone else?

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                            Jonathon ah…looks like that might be out of my league for now. I don’t know if I’m actually having a problem with that or not. The masterbuilts seem to hold humidity quite well. It just seems to take twice as long as I’m used to when using the MB40 vs. my old 30. Outside temps have been quite cold of course but the smoker seems to stay a constant temp

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