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Cheese puffs as binder?

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  • JonathonJ Offline
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    Jonathon
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    wrote on last edited by Jonathon
    #15

    We did batches of 1, 2.5 and 4% today so we will see what the best ratio is. I have a feeling the “binder” aspect of it isn’t going to work great. In the sample one we did yesterday there was some texture degradation with the added flavor.

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      This is why I love coming to this site, would have never thought of cheetos in sausage or snack sticks. Now I am curious and will probably try it. Don’t normal put cheese in either.

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        #17

        Yeah I could see how it might turn into a paste as the water and fat get worked in. Maybe crunchy cheetos broken up but still chunky LOL

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          This is why I love coming to this site, would have never thought of cheetos in sausage or snack sticks. Now I am curious and will probably try it. Don’t normal put cheese in either.

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          bocephus ditto, lots of interesting discussion happening here

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          • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

            bocephus ditto, lots of interesting discussion happening here

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            Ridley Acres I agree lots of interesting things and some are way out there but it keeps me thinking.

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            • samspadeS samspade

              I was eating some cheetos and noticed they were sticking to my teeth and got to wondering…
              Is it possible to pulverize cheetos then add them to a sausage or franks to give it a cheese flavor and act as a binder?

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              samspade hmmm…I can’t see how it wouldn’t work. I wouldn’t rely on that for all of the flavor component but if ground into a fresh brat it would certainly work. Be sure to add some high temp cheddar!

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                #21

                Jonathon I think you should try some sticks with jalapeño cheetos and see how those do for flavor. I love those things!!!

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                  #22

                  Or the fire hot red ones

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                    I was thinking the Flaming hot like samspade said but we might try a few more IF we can get the texture figured out. Right now, 2 or 2.5% of the weight seems to be the sweet spot but unless adding a bind significantly improves the texture I don’t think it is worth it. Now, it ABSOLUTELY bumps up the flavor of the |Nacho-Cheese-Flavored-Jerky-Snack-Stick-Seasoning but after they sit for a day or two the texture degrades further.

                    Getting ideas for tests is something we have done, this one was more cause I wanted johng to understand we want to try new and different things here BUT we’d love more suggestions like this, it is a lot of fun when you guys suggest things and then we go and try them and report back!

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                      Just a thought, since the texture is a problem with using cheetos, how about a regular binder and add seasoning from the nacho cheddar popcorn flavor shakers.
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                      • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

                        Just a thought, since the texture is a problem with using cheetos, how about a regular binder and add seasoning from the nacho cheddar popcorn flavor shakers.
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                        Grimpuppy What is the salt content of these shakers do you know? That is the only thing I would worry about if you were already using a mix from Waltons.

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                          Thanks Jonathan you guys have way more time and patience to try the ideas we come up with. Its slot harder when the prep and cook space is family sized.

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                            Ridley Acres I agree lots of interesting things and some are way out there but it keeps me thinking.

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                            bocephus thinking is a good thing new ideas and thoughts are a good thing for everyone !

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                              bocephus thinking is a good thing new ideas and thoughts are a good thing for everyone !

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                              craigrice I agree, and this community keeps me thinking all the time!

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                                Grimpuppy What is the salt content of these shakers do you know? That is the only thing I would worry about if you were already using a mix from Waltons.

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                                bocephus said in Cheese puffs as binder?:

                                Grimpuppy What is the salt content of these shakers do you know? That is the only thing I would worry about if you were already using a mix from Waltons.

                                The shaker is 2.8 ounces. There is 100 mg of salt per serving x 100 servings in the shaker. That would be 10,000 mg of salt which equals 12.5% or .35 ounces of salt per shaker. I just happen to have one of the ranch and nacho cheese. That is what made me think of them.
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                                  bocephus said in Cheese puffs as binder?:

                                  Grimpuppy What is the salt content of these shakers do you know? That is the only thing I would worry about if you were already using a mix from Waltons.

                                  The shaker is 2.8 ounces. There is 100 mg of salt per serving x 100 servings in the shaker. That would be 10,000 mg of salt which equals 12.5% or .35 ounces of salt per shaker. I just happen to have one of the ranch and nacho cheese. That is what made me think of them.
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                                  Grimpuppy Thanks for the info.

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                                  • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

                                    Just a thought, since the texture is a problem with using cheetos, how about a regular binder and add seasoning from the nacho cheddar popcorn flavor shakers.
                                    33ADFCB3-DF6F-409D-A7E5-3579827C22DC.jpeg

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                                    Grimpuppy These seasonings are great. I’ve been using them for years for my smoked almonds, cashews, pepitas (raw pumpkin seeds) and sunflower seeds. I primarily use the Dill Pickle. I buy a case of 6- 2.4 OZ. on Amazon for around $13.00. When I use these I generally don’t add any extra salt.

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