Skip to content
  • Home
  • Walton's
    • Home
    • Seasonings
    • Casings
    • Packaging
    • Supplies
    • Equipment
    • Smoking/Grilling
    • Sales
    • Giveaways
  • About Us
  • Topics
    • Unread
    • Recent
    • Random
    • Popular Monthly
    • Popular All-Time
    • Unsolved
    • Solved
  • Events
  • FAQ
  • Conv Chart
    • Seasonings
    • Cures
    • Additives
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
  • Team Blue Skin
Collapse
Meatgistics - Walton's - Community
  1. Home
  2. Categories
  3. Community
  4. Meat Processing
  5. The Least-Interesting , But Perhaps One Of The Most-Important Meat Processing Topics

The Least-Interesting , But Perhaps One Of The Most-Important Meat Processing Topics

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Meat Processing
42 Posts 10 Posters 1.6k Views 6 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    JoeB
    Team Blue Masterbuilt Yearling Sous Vide Canning Power User Regular Contributors Military Veterans
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    Another area is cross contamination while processing. I use throwaway gloves. Probably go thru 10 pair during the operation

    processheadP 1 Reply Last reply
    2
    • processheadP processhead

      I am talking about cleaning and sanitation. (Yawn). Before you fall asleep or move on, here is why I am kind of OCD about cleaning. I spent a few years working Summers in the family sausage business. Cleaning and sanitation is HUGE, and literally can mean the difference between staying open or being shut down at an inspected commercial processing plant.

      For most home processors, keeping our equipment and work space clean is about improving flavor, quality, and shelf life of the products you make. It also is about food safety, and making products that don’t have dangerous food-borne pathogens that could make you or others sick. Just because you cooked a product up to 160 degrees, does not mean it can’t make someone sick. Last of all, clean and well maintained equipment just works better.

      When you think about cleaning work surfaces, start to think about anything that could directly or indirectly make contact with the meat. That includes your hands, by the way.

      Anyone who has made sausage has probably observed how dried emulsified meat is like glue and is a real pain to get off of equipment. If you are working alone, do yourself a favor and as soon as you are finished with a piece of equipment, or a processing tub, rinse off the big chunks with the hottest water you have. Hot water is one of the best things I have found that can melt the fat and loosen the protein from surfaces. If the water is too hot for your hands, wear disposable rubber gloves.

      Once you have the chunks off, you can go back later when you are all finished and scrub the rest off with a soap, hot water, and minimal effort to finish the clean up. Once the heavy gunk has dried on, it is much more difficult to remove.

      Another thing that simplifies clean up is to use a plastic scraper to remove all the excess meat off of equipment before wash down. This does a couple of things: It reduces the amount of cleaners required and keeps the meat out of your sink or wash basin. In general, meat and fat in your drains is going to lead to problems sooner or later

      If you are working with helpers, it can greatly simplify cleaning if someone can start washing down a piece of equipment as soon as you are done using it for the day. This allows the clean up to start before any meat residue begins to dry and reduces the time and effort involved. Depending on your processing area, you probably can use the space created by cleaning up and putting away dirty equipment sooner rather than later.
      My favorite cleaner is a strong alkaline cleaner called Greased Lightening and it cuts fat and even smoke house/grill residue better than most other normal house-hold cleaners.
      After you get everything cleaned up and dried, figure out a storage system that keeps it clean till the next time you use it. Equipment stored out in the open on the shelf in the garage or basement is going to accumulate dirt and grunge. Store your clean equipment in a tote with a lid or cover it with plastic film till you are ready to use it again.

      Kind of just scratching the surface here. There have been whole books written on the topic of cleaning and sanitation. Would be interested to hear some of your own cleaning tricks.

      Photo of my small removable equipment parts after wash down. The big stationary items have to be washed down on the carts and tables they operate on.
      20210307_104436.jpg

      PapaSopP Offline
      PapaSopP Offline
      PapaSop
      Team Orange Power User Veteran
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      processhead
      Great words here. I’m kind of anal about this myself. It’s important!!! Thanks for sharing.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • J JoeB

        Another area is cross contamination while processing. I use throwaway gloves. Probably go thru 10 pair during the operation

        processheadP Offline
        processheadP Offline
        processhead
        Regular Contributors Power User
        wrote on last edited by processhead
        #4

        JoeB said in The Least-Interesting , But Perhaps One Of The Most-Important Meat Processing Topics:

        Another area is cross contamination while processing. I use throwaway gloves. Probably go thru 10 pair during the operation

        Disposable gloves are great and definitely keep things cleaner while processing. Gloves are the alternative to frequent hand washing. Either is almost a necessity to avoid getting meat on everything you touch and is certainly easier than washing down every equipment switch, refrigerator door handle, and knife handle you touch during the course of a normal processing session.

        Paul

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • J Offline
          J Offline
          JoeB
          Team Blue Masterbuilt Yearling Sous Vide Canning Power User Regular Contributors Military Veterans
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          Paul, you did a great job of identifying every critical point. Should be posted as the go-to guide for safe meat processing. One quick point: if I’m grinding beef and pork for different batters. I grind beef 1st. A little beef in the pork ok, but pork in the beef not good. It’s the pasteurization temps.

          1 Reply Last reply
          2
          • processheadP processhead

            I am talking about cleaning and sanitation. (Yawn). Before you fall asleep or move on, here is why I am kind of OCD about cleaning. I spent a few years working Summers in the family sausage business. Cleaning and sanitation is HUGE, and literally can mean the difference between staying open or being shut down at an inspected commercial processing plant.

            For most home processors, keeping our equipment and work space clean is about improving flavor, quality, and shelf life of the products you make. It also is about food safety, and making products that don’t have dangerous food-borne pathogens that could make you or others sick. Just because you cooked a product up to 160 degrees, does not mean it can’t make someone sick. Last of all, clean and well maintained equipment just works better.

            When you think about cleaning work surfaces, start to think about anything that could directly or indirectly make contact with the meat. That includes your hands, by the way.

            Anyone who has made sausage has probably observed how dried emulsified meat is like glue and is a real pain to get off of equipment. If you are working alone, do yourself a favor and as soon as you are finished with a piece of equipment, or a processing tub, rinse off the big chunks with the hottest water you have. Hot water is one of the best things I have found that can melt the fat and loosen the protein from surfaces. If the water is too hot for your hands, wear disposable rubber gloves.

            Once you have the chunks off, you can go back later when you are all finished and scrub the rest off with a soap, hot water, and minimal effort to finish the clean up. Once the heavy gunk has dried on, it is much more difficult to remove.

            Another thing that simplifies clean up is to use a plastic scraper to remove all the excess meat off of equipment before wash down. This does a couple of things: It reduces the amount of cleaners required and keeps the meat out of your sink or wash basin. In general, meat and fat in your drains is going to lead to problems sooner or later

            If you are working with helpers, it can greatly simplify cleaning if someone can start washing down a piece of equipment as soon as you are done using it for the day. This allows the clean up to start before any meat residue begins to dry and reduces the time and effort involved. Depending on your processing area, you probably can use the space created by cleaning up and putting away dirty equipment sooner rather than later.
            My favorite cleaner is a strong alkaline cleaner called Greased Lightening and it cuts fat and even smoke house/grill residue better than most other normal house-hold cleaners.
            After you get everything cleaned up and dried, figure out a storage system that keeps it clean till the next time you use it. Equipment stored out in the open on the shelf in the garage or basement is going to accumulate dirt and grunge. Store your clean equipment in a tote with a lid or cover it with plastic film till you are ready to use it again.

            Kind of just scratching the surface here. There have been whole books written on the topic of cleaning and sanitation. Would be interested to hear some of your own cleaning tricks.

            Photo of my small removable equipment parts after wash down. The big stationary items have to be washed down on the carts and tables they operate on.
            20210307_104436.jpg

            Joe HellJ Offline
            Joe HellJ Offline
            Joe Hell
            Team Blue
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            processhead this is no doubt one of the most important and legit posts on this forum…hands down

            Better Living Through BBQ!

            1 Reply Last reply
            3
            • processheadP Offline
              processheadP Offline
              processhead
              Regular Contributors Power User
              wrote on last edited by processhead
              #7

              I was thinking about this yesterday while cleaning the equipment in the picture above. One of the challenges many home processer face is just having enough work space to clean big items. I found a 2-tub sink with drain boards several years ago which helps a lot, but trying was clean can be tough without the space to do it properly.

              I also rigged up a short length of hose to the sink faucet so I can direct hot water to places that need rinsing or need a little pressure to flush debris off of equipment. Having that extra couple of feet of hose on the hot water line makes a huge difference during clean up.

              Many of you have probably already figured out that cleaning processing equipment requires some specialized tools like brushes to clean out grinder heads and plates, and stuffer funnels. I have accumulated most of the specialized brushes I need to get into the little cracks and crevices to get them cleaned correctly.

              If you are doing your wash down outdoors, a pressure washer is a great tool for getting things cleaned quickly, but it needs to be connected to hot water to really remove fat residue properly. For many of us, the local climate prevents us from cleaning outdoors for at least part of the year

              Paul

              1 Reply Last reply
              1
              • SurgS Offline
                SurgS Offline
                Surg
                Team Blue Cast Iron Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Veteran Sous Vide Power User Regular Contributors
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                Sorry if this is a dumb question but can Star San be used to sanitize grinder, mixer, stuffer parts? Looking at getting the Maxim hard surface sanitizer but just curious if I can use Star San because I have it on hand.

                “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

                processheadP Ridley AcresR 2 Replies Last reply
                1
                • SurgS Surg

                  Sorry if this is a dumb question but can Star San be used to sanitize grinder, mixer, stuffer parts? Looking at getting the Maxim hard surface sanitizer but just curious if I can use Star San because I have it on hand.

                  processheadP Offline
                  processheadP Offline
                  processhead
                  Regular Contributors Power User
                  wrote on last edited by processhead
                  #9

                  Surg
                  Starsan should be fine when used as a diluted solution as directed.
                  I use Starsan as a contact sanitizer on my stainless brewery gear.

                  Paul

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  2
                  • samspadeS Offline
                    samspadeS Offline
                    samspade
                    Team Orange Masterbuilt Sous Vide Team Blue Power User
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    I also clean and sanitize before I start. Dont know what’s got on the equipment since last use

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • processheadP Offline
                      processheadP Offline
                      processhead
                      Regular Contributors Power User
                      wrote on last edited by processhead
                      #11

                      If I don’t plan to use my equipment for a while, after cleaning it, I will cover the equipment with plastic film or put it in a ziplock bag it to keep the dust off it.

                      Paul

                      J 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • SurgS Surg

                        Sorry if this is a dumb question but can Star San be used to sanitize grinder, mixer, stuffer parts? Looking at getting the Maxim hard surface sanitizer but just curious if I can use Star San because I have it on hand.

                        Ridley AcresR Offline
                        Ridley AcresR Offline
                        Ridley Acres
                        Regular Contributors
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        Surg There are no dumb questions when it comes to sanitization. There is no bacon or sausage that is worth getting sick over.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • JonathonJ Offline
                          JonathonJ Offline
                          Jonathon
                          Team Blue Admin Walton's Employee Power User
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          How in the heck did this post slip by me? I must have been DEEP in coupon issues or something. processhead If I could more than upvote this post I would!

                          Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          3
                          • processheadP processhead

                            I am talking about cleaning and sanitation. (Yawn). Before you fall asleep or move on, here is why I am kind of OCD about cleaning. I spent a few years working Summers in the family sausage business. Cleaning and sanitation is HUGE, and literally can mean the difference between staying open or being shut down at an inspected commercial processing plant.

                            For most home processors, keeping our equipment and work space clean is about improving flavor, quality, and shelf life of the products you make. It also is about food safety, and making products that don’t have dangerous food-borne pathogens that could make you or others sick. Just because you cooked a product up to 160 degrees, does not mean it can’t make someone sick. Last of all, clean and well maintained equipment just works better.

                            When you think about cleaning work surfaces, start to think about anything that could directly or indirectly make contact with the meat. That includes your hands, by the way.

                            Anyone who has made sausage has probably observed how dried emulsified meat is like glue and is a real pain to get off of equipment. If you are working alone, do yourself a favor and as soon as you are finished with a piece of equipment, or a processing tub, rinse off the big chunks with the hottest water you have. Hot water is one of the best things I have found that can melt the fat and loosen the protein from surfaces. If the water is too hot for your hands, wear disposable rubber gloves.

                            Once you have the chunks off, you can go back later when you are all finished and scrub the rest off with a soap, hot water, and minimal effort to finish the clean up. Once the heavy gunk has dried on, it is much more difficult to remove.

                            Another thing that simplifies clean up is to use a plastic scraper to remove all the excess meat off of equipment before wash down. This does a couple of things: It reduces the amount of cleaners required and keeps the meat out of your sink or wash basin. In general, meat and fat in your drains is going to lead to problems sooner or later

                            If you are working with helpers, it can greatly simplify cleaning if someone can start washing down a piece of equipment as soon as you are done using it for the day. This allows the clean up to start before any meat residue begins to dry and reduces the time and effort involved. Depending on your processing area, you probably can use the space created by cleaning up and putting away dirty equipment sooner rather than later.
                            My favorite cleaner is a strong alkaline cleaner called Greased Lightening and it cuts fat and even smoke house/grill residue better than most other normal house-hold cleaners.
                            After you get everything cleaned up and dried, figure out a storage system that keeps it clean till the next time you use it. Equipment stored out in the open on the shelf in the garage or basement is going to accumulate dirt and grunge. Store your clean equipment in a tote with a lid or cover it with plastic film till you are ready to use it again.

                            Kind of just scratching the surface here. There have been whole books written on the topic of cleaning and sanitation. Would be interested to hear some of your own cleaning tricks.

                            Photo of my small removable equipment parts after wash down. The big stationary items have to be washed down on the carts and tables they operate on.
                            20210307_104436.jpg

                            B Offline
                            B Offline
                            bocephus
                            Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #14

                            processhead Very good write up. I use mortar mixing tubs for cleaning my equipment, don’t have big enough sinks to handle everything. Also have a Worx portable pressure washer that I can use with a bucket of hot water to cut the grease.

                            J 1 Reply Last reply
                            2
                            • processheadP processhead

                              If I don’t plan to use my equipment for a while, after cleaning it, I will cover the equipment with plastic film or put it in a ziplock bag it to keep the dust off it.

                              J Offline
                              J Offline
                              JoeB
                              Team Blue Masterbuilt Yearling Sous Vide Canning Power User Regular Contributors Military Veterans
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              processhead after cleaning and a hot rinse with 140* water time to air dry. After dry 6-24hrs i spray the working parts of the equipment with a lite coat of food safe silicone to protect the surfaces fm oxidation. I use clear large bags as covers. I’ve kept and reuse the bags that the equipment came in… store till used. Grinder Plates and knives spray lubed, are stored in heavy freezer ziplock bags. Knife in one, and plate in one stored in, and with the paired knife’s bag. To help id, use a marker on the bag with the grind size. Also for cleaning equipment: hot water (140*) to knock of the food stuff and grease, soap wash, hot water bath or spray (140*), and air dry. Tip, use hi-top rubber gloves and cotton throw-away inserts for insulation (H-F). 6pair for $2. Throw-away rubber gloves have become a little pricy. I still use them for durability, but vinyl gloves are cheap, not as strong but a good sub for a short cycle to keep cross contamination in check.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              1
                              • B bocephus

                                processhead Very good write up. I use mortar mixing tubs for cleaning my equipment, don’t have big enough sinks to handle everything. Also have a Worx portable pressure washer that I can use with a bucket of hot water to cut the grease.

                                J Offline
                                J Offline
                                JoeB
                                Team Blue Masterbuilt Yearling Sous Vide Canning Power User Regular Contributors Military Veterans
                                wrote on last edited by JoeB
                                #16

                                bocephus Hi side Black or gray bus-boy lugs 3-$4 also make a great wash tub. 3 on a counter or work area: 1st hot rinse, 2nd soap wash and 3rd hot rinse… Air Dry. Military field kitchen use the same concept, but used galvanized trash cans filled with potable water w/emersion heaters, and long handled stiff scrub brushes. 1, 2, and 3. 😊

                                B 1 Reply Last reply
                                2
                                • HerbcoFoodH Offline
                                  HerbcoFoodH Offline
                                  HerbcoFood
                                  Regular Contributors Team Orange Sous Vide
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  Do the lights dim when you plug that blender in?

                                  I remember my parents had one similar when I was young, but theirs was a nasty yellow.

                                  processheadP 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • HerbcoFoodH HerbcoFood

                                    Do the lights dim when you plug that blender in?

                                    I remember my parents had one similar when I was young, but theirs was a nasty yellow.

                                    processheadP Offline
                                    processheadP Offline
                                    processhead
                                    Regular Contributors Power User
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    HerbcoFood
                                    The lights don’t dim but I have to admit I am no fan of the avocado color scheme. It’s right out of the 1970’s

                                    Paul

                                    PapaSopP 1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • processheadP processhead

                                      HerbcoFood
                                      The lights don’t dim but I have to admit I am no fan of the avocado color scheme. It’s right out of the 1970’s

                                      PapaSopP Offline
                                      PapaSopP Offline
                                      PapaSop
                                      Team Orange Power User Veteran
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      processhead said in The Least-Interesting , But Perhaps One Of The Most-Important Meat Processing Topics:

                                      HerbcoFood
                                      The lights don’t dim but I have to admit I am no fan of the avocado color scheme. It’s right out of the 1970’s

                                      Don’t go trashing the '70s now. LOL. Those were some fun years.
                                      The avocado was to match the green shag carpeting in the living room.

                                      B processheadP 2 Replies Last reply
                                      2
                                      • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                        processhead said in The Least-Interesting , But Perhaps One Of The Most-Important Meat Processing Topics:

                                        HerbcoFood
                                        The lights don’t dim but I have to admit I am no fan of the avocado color scheme. It’s right out of the 1970’s

                                        Don’t go trashing the '70s now. LOL. Those were some fun years.
                                        The avocado was to match the green shag carpeting in the living room.

                                        B Offline
                                        B Offline
                                        bocephus
                                        Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        PapaSop I remember that green shag carpeting and the rake that came with it.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        3
                                        • J JoeB

                                          bocephus Hi side Black or gray bus-boy lugs 3-$4 also make a great wash tub. 3 on a counter or work area: 1st hot rinse, 2nd soap wash and 3rd hot rinse… Air Dry. Military field kitchen use the same concept, but used galvanized trash cans filled with potable water w/emersion heaters, and long handled stiff scrub brushes. 1, 2, and 3. 😊

                                          B Offline
                                          B Offline
                                          bocephus
                                          Team Orange Power User Canning Masterbuilt Veteran
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          JoeB Mortar tubs are very similar, smooth bottom for easy clean up, I also use a different one for mixing meat with seasoning because of the smooth bottom.

                                          J 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0

                                          Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                          Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                          With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                          Register Login
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          Sponsored By:

                                          Sponsored By Walton's Inc

                                          Sponsored By:

                                          Sponsored By Walton's
                                          Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Copyright © 2023 Walton's Inc.
                                          Meatgistics
                                          X

                                          Register Now For Complete Access To Meatgistics!

                                          Sign In Register
                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Home
                                          • Walton's
                                            • Home
                                            • Seasonings
                                            • Casings
                                            • Packaging
                                            • Supplies
                                            • Equipment
                                            • Smoking/Grilling
                                            • Sales
                                            • Giveaways
                                          • About Us
                                          • Topics
                                            • Unread
                                            • Recent
                                            • Random
                                            • Popular Monthly
                                            • Popular All-Time
                                            • Unsolved
                                            • Solved
                                          • Events
                                          • FAQ
                                          • Conv Chart
                                            • Seasonings
                                            • Cures
                                            • Additives