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  • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

    Planning to build a cinder block pit for hog roast later this fall. I’m not set on design, but I’d like to avoid firebricks and be used throughout the year as well for large gathering grilling.

    It would be really nice to be able to boil maple sap, but I’d be concerned about the heat cracking blocks.

    Let me know ideas, and post pics of what you have done.

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    Ridley Acres Interesting topic. I’m planning on building a fire pit this year and it would be fantastic to accommodate a whole hog. I know I would appreciate any plans, pictures or thoughts on such a projects.

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      Can’t speak from personal experience, but any cinder block in direct contact with the heat/coals is going to suffer. A layer of sand or rock for a base would help. Block for the sides would probably hold up ok.

      Paul

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      • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

        Planning to build a cinder block pit for hog roast later this fall. I’m not set on design, but I’d like to avoid firebricks and be used throughout the year as well for large gathering grilling.

        It would be really nice to be able to boil maple sap, but I’d be concerned about the heat cracking blocks.

        Let me know ideas, and post pics of what you have done.

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        Cast Iron Canning
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        Ridley Acres 20210331_192318.jpg the cement block on this old girl have held up for 60 years that I know of, probably more. Has a dirt floor & two large sliding racks for goodies.

        “Never eat more than you can lift.”

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          That is an interesting building. I would like to do something like that only laying it sideways to accommodate longer foods ie. A whole pig. Imo

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          • JonesyJ Jonesy

            Ridley Acres 20210331_192318.jpg the cement block on this old girl have held up for 60 years that I know of, probably more. Has a dirt floor & two large sliding racks for goodies.

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            Jonesy Yep, those concrete blocks will hold up better than cinder blocks any day. Still not sure that they would hold up to the higher heat of a fire pit.

            How hot have you gotten your smoker, I would guess never over 250 F or so

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            • processheadP processhead

              Can’t speak from personal experience, but any cinder block in direct contact with the heat/coals is going to suffer. A layer of sand or rock for a base would help. Block for the sides would probably hold up ok.

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              processhead I had cinder blocks, one high, just as a temporary fire pit. It was about 6 feet in diameter. They lasted all of about 10 burnings or so.

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                When discussing smokers made from block, we probably need to make some distinction between low temperature smoke houses and barbeque fire pits that are cooking meat at high temperatures and are full of live coals.

                Its really apples and oranges and the life of the block materials will vary according to which application they are used for.

                Paul

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                  I think if I am right in my thinking you would have to fill the blocks with sand/dirt to keep them from breaking and to hold the heat but I could be wrong in my thinking

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                    Watch the video described below, they do exactly what you want to do, but as others said you may have to modify the design if you want the blocks to last.

                    Block pit whole hog by meat church bbq

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                      Thanks for the tips thus far.

                      My intent is to cook hogs similar to the Meat Church and other southern style videos using coals spread along the long walls and not directly under the meat. I would use a separate fire box to generate the coals (and possibly smoke) for the BBQ pit.

                      I should clarify, the blocks I have access to are concrete and not cinder as I had originally posted.

                      The base would likely be poured concrete over gravel base. The surface of the floor sloped so that the drippings run to the middle and out of the pit as the coals will be along the long walls and this will hopefully reduce any potential flare ups. If looking at the short sides, the left and right of the bottom course would have a removable plate for access to add coals without opening the lid.

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                      • Ridley AcresR Ridley Acres

                        Thanks for the tips thus far.

                        My intent is to cook hogs similar to the Meat Church and other southern style videos using coals spread along the long walls and not directly under the meat. I would use a separate fire box to generate the coals (and possibly smoke) for the BBQ pit.

                        I should clarify, the blocks I have access to are concrete and not cinder as I had originally posted.

                        The base would likely be poured concrete over gravel base. The surface of the floor sloped so that the drippings run to the middle and out of the pit as the coals will be along the long walls and this will hopefully reduce any potential flare ups. If looking at the short sides, the left and right of the bottom course would have a removable plate for access to add coals without opening the lid.

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                        Ridley Acres If I understand correctly you will definitely be using higher heat near the blocks. I would a be careful using concrete blocks close direct flame or coal. The problem with not using a fire block is the construction of concrete or cinder. If it has an air pocket that can heat up, it could pop (explode) and a slim chance it may send a hot rock flying. Having said that, I have built a square pit out of cinder and used hickory logs to cook 1/2 chickens on a 3’ by 3’ metal rack that we could flip. I never had any problems using cinder blocks except occasionally having to replace one due to cracks from the heat. My situation was definitely different than what you are going to do, since you are looking for a more permanent pit and I was using mine occasionally and storing the block in a barn. I would suggest talking with a good Mason in your area for advice, unless we have one here that can help out. Good luck on the build and send pics when its up and running.

                        “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                          Jonesy Yep, those concrete blocks will hold up better than cinder blocks any day. Still not sure that they would hold up to the higher heat of a fire pit.

                          How hot have you gotten your smoker, I would guess never over 250 F or so

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                          Chef I have lately sustained temps of over 300. Years ago, my neighbor actually got it so hot that he burned the roof off of it. The roof was rebuilt after sheet steel was added on top of the block walls, to keep that from happening again. He also burned off the wooden door. That was also replaced with steel. Lesson learned: never lend out your smokehouse.

                          “Never eat more than you can lift.”

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                          • JonesyJ Jonesy

                            Chef I have lately sustained temps of over 300. Years ago, my neighbor actually got it so hot that he burned the roof off of it. The roof was rebuilt after sheet steel was added on top of the block walls, to keep that from happening again. He also burned off the wooden door. That was also replaced with steel. Lesson learned: never lend out your smokehouse.

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                            Jonesy I remember when I got my smoker/pit. The welder told me never to lend it out. He even went as far as to tell me to lend out my wife before lending my smoker. LOL

                            Truth is, it someone does not know how to regulate the temperature, there is a great likelihood that they will over heat it.

                            I know once I loss control of my smoker, Temperatures got as high as 500F . Took me awhile to get it under control.

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                            • GWG8541G GWG8541

                              Ridley Acres If I understand correctly you will definitely be using higher heat near the blocks. I would a be careful using concrete blocks close direct flame or coal. The problem with not using a fire block is the construction of concrete or cinder. If it has an air pocket that can heat up, it could pop (explode) and a slim chance it may send a hot rock flying. Having said that, I have built a square pit out of cinder and used hickory logs to cook 1/2 chickens on a 3’ by 3’ metal rack that we could flip. I never had any problems using cinder blocks except occasionally having to replace one due to cracks from the heat. My situation was definitely different than what you are going to do, since you are looking for a more permanent pit and I was using mine occasionally and storing the block in a barn. I would suggest talking with a good Mason in your area for advice, unless we have one here that can help out. Good luck on the build and send pics when its up and running.

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                              GWG8541 said in Cinder block smoker pit - post your pics:

                              If it has an air pocket that can heat up, it could pop (explode) and a slim chance it may send a hot rock flying.

                              Good point, it may be worth it to have the fire block or some metal shield along the bottom course if this will be a permanent setup like I intend.

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                                Well this didn’t get done, better luck next year!

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