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  • D Denny

    Tex_77 I run the parts list I gave you for the build your own grinder. The motor I used is discontinued. But they superseded the part number with a new part number and motor that looks the same. Here is the new part number for the motor MTR2-001-1AB18 also on there wbs site they have video of the gear box with a exploded view of the internal guts. I guarantee you will find no heavier.

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    Denny I noticed that when I looked at it the day you sent me all the stuff. Thanks for all of the information.

    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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      Denny I noticed that when I looked at it the day you sent me all the stuff. Thanks for all of the information.

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      Tex_77 Did you look at the youtube clip #32 meat grinder 1 HP yet it shows the beast in action

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        Tex_77 Did you look at the youtube clip #32 meat grinder 1 HP yet it shows the beast in action

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        Denny Yes, it looked like a pretty serious machine.

        Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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        • N Njlungbuster

          Denny I don’t see why not. I’m intrigued myself. I love diy stuff. That’s why I’m here lol. Diy sausage, diy jerky, diy bacon, etc lol.

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          Njlungbuster

          I run all the parts to build the the grinder. they discontinued the motor I used but have a exact fit look alike motor th replace it. My guess they changed suppliers. here is the new part number. From Automation Direct MTR2-001-1AB18

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            Denny it’s all good. I ended up buying one I really liked.

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              I have used a 1 1/2 hp #12 thunderbird for years and love it but got a smoken deal on a new Weston 1 1/2hp #32 Butcher series and love it, ground down to 1/8 and does it in 1/2 half the time of my old #12 which is a great grinder. I really think if you can afford it and are really into the hobby, I would get a #12 with 1 hp motor.
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              • N Njlungbuster

                So I’m torn on what grinder to get and could use some help. I don’t own a business but I also don’t do little batches either. Usually when I’m making sausage of any kind I’m doing a minimum of 10lbs but typically 25lbs and other times 50lbs. I’ve had a cheap kitchen grinder that I’ve had for a couple years and have never upgraded even though I’m doing significantly more than when I started. My last 50lb batch of Chorizo essentially wore it out. I’m thinking 3/4hp? Too small? Too big? Butcher series or Pro series? And why do I see some 3/4hp grinders on the Walton’s page that are #8 and some are #12? Hopefully this isn’t one of those topics that has been beaten to death because I don’t wanna be that guy:man_facepalming_light_skin_tone: . Thanks everyone.

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                Njlungbuster I bought a grinder 2 months ago. I make nothing smaller than 12.5 lbs. usually 25 lbs. I bought a #12. I’m extremely happy with it. I grind, n mix with it. On average I make 50 pounds of meat products per month. I also bought a extra fine face plate, use this for hotdogs and other products that require small particular size. Good luck with your decision.

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                  I do all the final grind with meat and fat mixed for snack sticks and summer sausage 1/8 and my old #12 served me well and is now my back up and I really didn’t need the #32 but am glad I got it. I just cuts the grind time down by 1/2 but it does not do any better job than my #12

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                    I have used a #12 for years and love it but wanted one with a bigger throat and just got a great deal on a #32 Weston Butcher series and was ecstatic About its performance. I think it cut my grinding time in 1/2 and the performance with an 1/8 plate was exceptional. I really wanted a 2hp #32. but the price was nearly double the one I got.

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                      LONG POST ALERT
                      Hey guys I’ve come to the conclusion that my sausage making hobby has out grown my grinder. I’ve been looking into a new one but could use some direction.
                      I’ve been using a Gourmia kitchen grinder that says it is 800 watts. It honestly has been pretty good for single grinds but recently doing a double grind for a 5 pound batch of snack sticks it seemed like forever
                      I’ve been looking in the $300-$450 range.
                      Currently I make a batch of sausage/snack sticks about once a month sometimes twice and usually do batches between 5 pounds and 10 pounds. Although I’ve been finding that it is probably better to go with the bigger batches and vac and freeze them. Would have less cleanup time overall, especially now that I have the mixer.
                      I do see myself getting into making summer sausage and all but I usually do all the processing alone so I honestly don’t think I will go much larger than 25 pound batches.
                      I have an 11lb stuffer, 22lb meat mixer, and a food saver vac sealer.
                      I’ve been looking at everything from the Weston butcher 8, 12, or 22, the Weston Pro 8 or 12, the Walton 8 or 12.
                      Wondering what features are more beneficial as a home processor making stuff for friend and family. Should I sacrifice HP for plate size? Does the Waltons one have features over the Weston because it seems like for a similar price the Weston pro has .25 more HP. I would think it’s better to ere on the larger size than get something too small, but if the larger ones would be way overkill I can definitely think of some other places to spend that extra money.
                      Initially I was thinking the Weston pro 8, but then thought maybe a larger plate size even if the motor is smaller would be better. I.e. the Weston butcher series in 22.
                      I think for the frequency and quantity I do, the difference in grind time will not matter all that much other than concerns with the meat getting warm and food safety.
                      Also sorry if this is a dumb question but does the throat size increase as the grinder number goes up.
                      Sorry if this has been addressed before, other than the post above, but I am severely suffering from paralysis by over analysis.
                      Any input is greatly appreciated.
                      Thanks.

                      “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                        LONG POST ALERT
                        Hey guys I’ve come to the conclusion that my sausage making hobby has out grown my grinder. I’ve been looking into a new one but could use some direction.
                        I’ve been using a Gourmia kitchen grinder that says it is 800 watts. It honestly has been pretty good for single grinds but recently doing a double grind for a 5 pound batch of snack sticks it seemed like forever
                        I’ve been looking in the $300-$450 range.
                        Currently I make a batch of sausage/snack sticks about once a month sometimes twice and usually do batches between 5 pounds and 10 pounds. Although I’ve been finding that it is probably better to go with the bigger batches and vac and freeze them. Would have less cleanup time overall, especially now that I have the mixer.
                        I do see myself getting into making summer sausage and all but I usually do all the processing alone so I honestly don’t think I will go much larger than 25 pound batches.
                        I have an 11lb stuffer, 22lb meat mixer, and a food saver vac sealer.
                        I’ve been looking at everything from the Weston butcher 8, 12, or 22, the Weston Pro 8 or 12, the Walton 8 or 12.
                        Wondering what features are more beneficial as a home processor making stuff for friend and family. Should I sacrifice HP for plate size? Does the Waltons one have features over the Weston because it seems like for a similar price the Weston pro has .25 more HP. I would think it’s better to ere on the larger size than get something too small, but if the larger ones would be way overkill I can definitely think of some other places to spend that extra money.
                        Initially I was thinking the Weston pro 8, but then thought maybe a larger plate size even if the motor is smaller would be better. I.e. the Weston butcher series in 22.
                        I think for the frequency and quantity I do, the difference in grind time will not matter all that much other than concerns with the meat getting warm and food safety.
                        Also sorry if this is a dumb question but does the throat size increase as the grinder number goes up.
                        Sorry if this has been addressed before other than the post above and for the lengthy post, but I am severely suffering from paralysis by over analysis.
                        Any input is greatly appreciated.

                        “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                        • SurgS Surg

                          LONG POST ALERT
                          Hey guys I’ve come to the conclusion that my sausage making hobby has out grown my grinder. I’ve been looking into a new one but could use some direction.
                          I’ve been using a Gourmia kitchen grinder that says it is 800 watts. It honestly has been pretty good for single grinds but recently doing a double grind for a 5 pound batch of snack sticks it seemed like forever
                          I’ve been looking in the $300-$450 range.
                          Currently I make a batch of sausage/snack sticks about once a month sometimes twice and usually do batches between 5 pounds and 10 pounds. Although I’ve been finding that it is probably better to go with the bigger batches and vac and freeze them. Would have less cleanup time overall, especially now that I have the mixer.
                          I do see myself getting into making summer sausage and all but I usually do all the processing alone so I honestly don’t think I will go much larger than 25 pound batches.
                          I have an 11lb stuffer, 22lb meat mixer, and a food saver vac sealer.
                          I’ve been looking at everything from the Weston butcher 8, 12, or 22, the Weston Pro 8 or 12, the Walton 8 or 12.
                          Wondering what features are more beneficial as a home processor making stuff for friend and family. Should I sacrifice HP for plate size? Does the Waltons one have features over the Weston because it seems like for a similar price the Weston pro has .25 more HP. I would think it’s better to ere on the larger size than get something too small, but if the larger ones would be way overkill I can definitely think of some other places to spend that extra money.
                          Initially I was thinking the Weston pro 8, but then thought maybe a larger plate size even if the motor is smaller would be better. I.e. the Weston butcher series in 22.
                          I think for the frequency and quantity I do, the difference in grind time will not matter all that much other than concerns with the meat getting warm and food safety.
                          Also sorry if this is a dumb question but does the throat size increase as the grinder number goes up.
                          Sorry if this has been addressed before other than the post above and for the lengthy post, but I am severely suffering from paralysis by over analysis.
                          Any input is greatly appreciated.

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                          Surg I believe that most of us on this forum would tell you get the biggest you can reasonably afford.

                          I would say for your present volume, that a 22 would work with room to spare.

                          As far as brands, Walton or Weston should preform well for you. HP is not the end all. Depending on the gearing, it is the final output that is to be considered.

                          You could drive yourself crazy trying to get the best bang for the buck, and 10 people on this forum would result in 10 opinions.

                          I think that the bottom line is you wouldn’t be wrong with either. You probably would be great with a #12, but as almost most people will tell you, your hobby is likely to expand, so the #22 may be your best long term bet.

                          Pick one, and sit back and enjoy the journey.

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                          • SurgS Surg

                            LONG POST ALERT
                            Hey guys I’ve come to the conclusion that my sausage making hobby has out grown my grinder. I’ve been looking into a new one but could use some direction.
                            I’ve been using a Gourmia kitchen grinder that says it is 800 watts. It honestly has been pretty good for single grinds but recently doing a double grind for a 5 pound batch of snack sticks it seemed like forever
                            I’ve been looking in the $300-$450 range.
                            Currently I make a batch of sausage/snack sticks about once a month sometimes twice and usually do batches between 5 pounds and 10 pounds. Although I’ve been finding that it is probably better to go with the bigger batches and vac and freeze them. Would have less cleanup time overall, especially now that I have the mixer.
                            I do see myself getting into making summer sausage and all but I usually do all the processing alone so I honestly don’t think I will go much larger than 25 pound batches.
                            I have an 11lb stuffer, 22lb meat mixer, and a food saver vac sealer.
                            I’ve been looking at everything from the Weston butcher 8, 12, or 22, the Weston Pro 8 or 12, the Walton 8 or 12.
                            Wondering what features are more beneficial as a home processor making stuff for friend and family. Should I sacrifice HP for plate size? Does the Waltons one have features over the Weston because it seems like for a similar price the Weston pro has .25 more HP. I would think it’s better to ere on the larger size than get something too small, but if the larger ones would be way overkill I can definitely think of some other places to spend that extra money.
                            Initially I was thinking the Weston pro 8, but then thought maybe a larger plate size even if the motor is smaller would be better. I.e. the Weston butcher series in 22.
                            I think for the frequency and quantity I do, the difference in grind time will not matter all that much other than concerns with the meat getting warm and food safety.
                            Also sorry if this is a dumb question but does the throat size increase as the grinder number goes up.
                            Sorry if this has been addressed before, other than the post above, but I am severely suffering from paralysis by over analysis.
                            Any input is greatly appreciated.
                            Thanks.

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                            Surg Horsepower doesn’t matter, period. The only situation where horsepower matters is if you want to grind fully frozen stuff, which you don’t because it’s going to mess up any grinder that walton’s sells. Get the biggest plate size grinder you can afford, it will take less time to grind and less time to prep because larger plate grinders have larger throats.

                            For a 25 lbs batch get literally anything, your run time isn’t going to be long enough to overheat a 115v motor. If you get into larger batches I would recommend getting the PROCUT products over a walton’s branded product. Procut is a lower level commercial brand and not a home use brand and their stuff is designed to not overheat during longer run times.

                            Lastly sometimes its better buy more expensive things with resale value instead of new items. A used hobart or biro or procut or berkel grinder has resale value if you get bored of the hobby or move on to bigger equipment, you can always resell a used commercial grinder for what you bought it for.

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                            • SurgS Surg

                              LONG POST ALERT
                              Hey guys I’ve come to the conclusion that my sausage making hobby has out grown my grinder. I’ve been looking into a new one but could use some direction.
                              I’ve been using a Gourmia kitchen grinder that says it is 800 watts. It honestly has been pretty good for single grinds but recently doing a double grind for a 5 pound batch of snack sticks it seemed like forever
                              I’ve been looking in the $300-$450 range.
                              Currently I make a batch of sausage/snack sticks about once a month sometimes twice and usually do batches between 5 pounds and 10 pounds. Although I’ve been finding that it is probably better to go with the bigger batches and vac and freeze them. Would have less cleanup time overall, especially now that I have the mixer.
                              I do see myself getting into making summer sausage and all but I usually do all the processing alone so I honestly don’t think I will go much larger than 25 pound batches.
                              I have an 11lb stuffer, 22lb meat mixer, and a food saver vac sealer.
                              I’ve been looking at everything from the Weston butcher 8, 12, or 22, the Weston Pro 8 or 12, the Walton 8 or 12.
                              Wondering what features are more beneficial as a home processor making stuff for friend and family. Should I sacrifice HP for plate size? Does the Waltons one have features over the Weston because it seems like for a similar price the Weston pro has .25 more HP. I would think it’s better to ere on the larger size than get something too small, but if the larger ones would be way overkill I can definitely think of some other places to spend that extra money.
                              Initially I was thinking the Weston pro 8, but then thought maybe a larger plate size even if the motor is smaller would be better. I.e. the Weston butcher series in 22.
                              I think for the frequency and quantity I do, the difference in grind time will not matter all that much other than concerns with the meat getting warm and food safety.
                              Also sorry if this is a dumb question but does the throat size increase as the grinder number goes up.
                              Sorry if this has been addressed before other than the post above and for the lengthy post, but I am severely suffering from paralysis by over analysis.
                              Any input is greatly appreciated.

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                              Surg I have the weston #12 butcher series that I won on a live stream. I have a second #12 that I bought many years ago. I am very happy with the weston. I usually grind 50 pounds at a time and its never missed a beat. One thing to think about is where you keep the grinder when not in use. Mine is in the basement so when I grind I have to carry it up the stairs, so remember the bigger the grinder, the heavier its going to be. I agree everyone has an opinion, but take a little bit from everyone, then choose what is right for you.

                              hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                                Surg I got a meatyourmaker 32 for under 600. The thing eats anything that walks by. I still use my kitchen aid for small grinds but 25 lbs of meat twice in 10 mins is pretty good.

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                                  But once, cry once.

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                                  • samspadeS samspade

                                    Surg I got a meatyourmaker 32 for under 600. The thing eats anything that walks by. I still use my kitchen aid for small grinds but 25 lbs of meat twice in 10 mins is pretty good.

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                                    samspade
                                    Thanks Tried to upvote your post but for some reason it gives you a -1 even though I click the thumbs up.

                                    “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                                      But once, cry once.

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                                      HerbcoFood
                                      Very true. Wish I learned that earlier in life.

                                      “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                                      • kyleK kyle

                                        Surg I have the weston #12 butcher series that I won on a live stream. I have a second #12 that I bought many years ago. I am very happy with the weston. I usually grind 50 pounds at a time and its never missed a beat. One thing to think about is where you keep the grinder when not in use. Mine is in the basement so when I grind I have to carry it up the stairs, so remember the bigger the grinder, the heavier its going to be. I agree everyone has an opinion, but take a little bit from everyone, then choose what is right for you.

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                                        kyle thanks I will be storing mine in the basement as well. Good to keep in mind.

                                        “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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                                        • ChefC Chef

                                          Surg I believe that most of us on this forum would tell you get the biggest you can reasonably afford.

                                          I would say for your present volume, that a 22 would work with room to spare.

                                          As far as brands, Walton or Weston should preform well for you. HP is not the end all. Depending on the gearing, it is the final output that is to be considered.

                                          You could drive yourself crazy trying to get the best bang for the buck, and 10 people on this forum would result in 10 opinions.

                                          I think that the bottom line is you wouldn’t be wrong with either. You probably would be great with a #12, but as almost most people will tell you, your hobby is likely to expand, so the #22 may be your best long term bet.

                                          Pick one, and sit back and enjoy the journey.

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                                          Chef thanks Great advice as always.

                                          “A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.”

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