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    kzwisconsin
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    So I’m getting ready to make some venison ring bologna. In the past I have had problems with the casing sticking to the meat. Also the seasoning I have used tends to be to spicy for a lot of people that like ring bologna. So I’m looking for your best seasoning you think will work and the best casing you have for making ring bologna. Note I don’t have any problems with meat sticking when I do my summer sausage.

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      Tex_77
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      Check out this article from Meatgistics University on ring bologna.

      https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/post/555

      Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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      • Tex_77T Tex_77

        Check out this article from Meatgistics University on ring bologna.

        https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/post/555

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        kzwisconsin
        Yearling
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        Tex_77 Thanks I noticed in the article that they said that they removed the casing after it cooled. I leave my casing on when I freeze them and try to take it of after I reheated the ring bologna. Do you think this might be the reason they stick?

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          Tex_77
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          That would be my guess.

          Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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          • K kzwisconsin

            Tex_77 Thanks I noticed in the article that they said that they removed the casing after it cooled. I leave my casing on when I freeze them and try to take it of after I reheated the ring bologna. Do you think this might be the reason they stick?

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            kzwisconsin what do you mean by stick? Is it pulling meat with the casing while trying to pull off? Mine are tight to casing however i just take a sharp knife and cut the casing on top then start from one end and it peels right off after cooking. It is troublesome with it being hot so i may try taking it off after the icebath once. However i do like the added protection from freezer burning with the casing on.

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              Jonathon
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              kzwisconsin I’m betting that the product isnt being cooled quickly enough. Make sure you are going right to an ice bath, not a cold water bath but a 50/50 ice and water bath. Not cooling quickly enough with inedible or fibrous casing will cause the meat to stick to the casing like you are talking about.

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                kzwisconsin I’m betting that the product isnt being cooled quickly enough. Make sure you are going right to an ice bath, not a cold water bath but a 50/50 ice and water bath. Not cooling quickly enough with inedible or fibrous casing will cause the meat to stick to the casing like you are talking about.

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                jpurol
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                Jonathon I have run into a issue with these casing not necessarily sticking but extremely hard to peel. I soaked the casings but not with the 15% salt solution. Could that have been the issue?

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                • jpurolJ jpurol

                  Jonathon I have run into a issue with these casing not necessarily sticking but extremely hard to peel. I soaked the casings but not with the 15% salt solution. Could that have been the issue?

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                  jpurol same here

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                    Jonathon
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                    jpurol Yeah, if you did 15% for 15 minutes in a 15 degree (Celsius) water and they stuck or were really hard to peel id imagine that not getting them cooledf quickly enough is/was a large part of the problem. I know I have a video/article on this somewhere, the fact that I cant find it leads me to beleive it might have been a social media meathack monday or something…Ill try to find it.

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                      OKay, going to have to make a video about this as it is just a social media post at this point https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ6fmfaKQ3E/

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                      • JonathonJ Jonathon

                        OKay, going to have to make a video about this as it is just a social media post at this point https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ6fmfaKQ3E/

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                        jpurol
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                        Jonathon Do you by chance have a salt to water ratio to make the 15% solution?

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                          Yeah, its simply using .85 lb of water and .15 lb of salt, makes your 15% strength solution. You will probably need to triple that to have enough to do a full 15 lb batch of inedible collagen casings. Hope thats what you were asking?

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                            Yeah, its simply using .85 lb of water and .15 lb of salt, makes your 15% strength solution. You will probably need to triple that to have enough to do a full 15 lb batch of inedible collagen casings. Hope thats what you were asking?

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                            Jonathon That’s exactly what I was looking for. Thank You!

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                            • twilliamsT twilliams

                              jpurol same here

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                              twilliams just a update. I did a batch in these casings this past weekend. I did the salt water soak and right into ice bath and casing peel perfectly.

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                                twilliams just a update. I did a batch in these casings this past weekend. I did the salt water soak and right into ice bath and casing peel perfectly.

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                                twilliams
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                                jpurol good to know, thank you. First time i used them i didnt know they needed to be soaked so i stuffed them dry. Ripped only two, didnt come out terrible, second time only soaked in water, stuffed a whole lot better. Thankful for this community to learn so much

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