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First Attempt at Landjaeger

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    Nice,I was looking for some landjaeger advice for snack sticks, I’m going to try a ten pound meat block,was wondering about the ECA, I’ll try without. Just wondering about using another cure excellerator and sure gel, thanks.

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      Nice,I was looking for some landjaeger advice for snack sticks, I’m going to try a ten pound meat block,was wondering about the ECA, I’ll try without. Just wondering about using another cure excellerator and sure gel, thanks.

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      Snacks said in First Attempt at Landjaeger:

      Nice,I was looking for some landjaeger advice for snack sticks, I’m going to try a ten pound meat block,was wondering about the ECA, I’ll try without. Just wondering about using another cure excellerator and sure gel, thanks.

      If you are unsure about whether you will like ECA in a batch or not, it is pretty simple to mix some in to a small amount of of the batch just before stuffing and then figure out a way to keep track of it throughout the remainder of the processing.

      I waited about 6 hours between mixing/stuffing and smoking. The batch without ECA was fully cured so a cure accelerant was not required in my case.

      Paul

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        Thanks,I’ll definitely be trying that.

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          processhead I made langjaeger snack sticks once, just used the seasoning and made normal snack sticks really, but it was a nice all-around flavor. Not too crazy but a good traditional meaty taste.

          Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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            I shared the landjaeger with some friends today and asked for opinions on taste of the version with ECA and without ECA. Most preferred the ones with ECA, although I actually liked the one without ECA.

            Paul

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              That looks great. Landjeager is definitely on my list

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                Some additional thoughts on the test Landjaeger batches, both with and without ECA.
                Numbers of tasters favoring the version with ECA have a slight lead although no one had negative comments of either version.
                A couple of notable differences are the color and texture.
                The landjaeger without ECA was slightly darker in color and had a tighter texture with a better bind.
                The landjaeger with ECA was a little looser. Almost like there was some breakdown of the emulsion. I added the ECA at the very end of the mix and only mixed it for an additional minute or so. I then held it overnight and stuffed both versions the following morning. Stuffing and thermal processing was identical on both versions.

                Paul

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                  Some additional thoughts on the test Landjaeger batches, both with and without ECA.
                  Numbers of tasters favoring the version with ECA have a slight lead although no one had negative comments of either version.
                  A couple of notable differences are the color and texture.
                  The landjaeger without ECA was slightly darker in color and had a tighter texture with a better bind.
                  The landjaeger with ECA was a little looser. Almost like there was some breakdown of the emulsion. I added the ECA at the very end of the mix and only mixed it for an additional minute or so. I then held it overnight and stuffed both versions the following morning. Stuffing and thermal processing was identical on both versions.

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                  processhead you mixed and held in fridge then stuffed next day? Im surprised it didnt eat the gears in your stuffer.

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                    processhead you mixed and held in fridge then stuffed next day? Im surprised it didnt eat the gears in your stuffer.

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                    twilliams said in First Attempt at Landjaeger:

                    processhead you mixed and held in fridge then stuffed next day? Im surprised it didnt eat the gears in your stuffer.

                    No issues stuffing. Going into a hog casing though a medium funnel wasn’t much work.

                    Having the torque amplifier crank handle helps.😊

                    20210404_200659.jpg

                    Paul

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                      processhead Yeah, I prefer that (actually I prefer almost everything) with the tang. There are a few that in my opinion though absolutely require it. Pepperoni, Salami, Lanjaeger and a few others.

                      Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                        Some additional thoughts on the test Landjaeger batches, both with and without ECA.
                        Numbers of tasters favoring the version with ECA have a slight lead although no one had negative comments of either version.
                        A couple of notable differences are the color and texture.
                        The landjaeger without ECA was slightly darker in color and had a tighter texture with a better bind.
                        The landjaeger with ECA was a little looser. Almost like there was some breakdown of the emulsion. I added the ECA at the very end of the mix and only mixed it for an additional minute or so. I then held it overnight and stuffed both versions the following morning. Stuffing and thermal processing was identical on both versions.

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