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    dmdeshotels
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    I will start ordering my snack stick supplies and recipes from Walton’s this month to make 25 to 50 pounds of snack sticks every other week. Has anyone conducted shelf life studies using Walton’s ingredients and recipe’s? People will ask me how long they can keep the snack sticks out at room temperature? How long are they good in the refrigerator after making them? How long are they good vacuum packed and frozen after I make a fresh batch? These are the questions that I have. Any studies or experience from people who use Walton’s supplies and recipes that you can give me and I’m sure other customers out here who want to know how long we can safely store snack sticks would be greatly appreciated. I plan to use your heating and smoking directions. Thanks dmdeshotels

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      Walton’s products are an excellent start to making shelf stable snack sticks but the process is really the key. If you understand the chemistry and cooking process you can make very stable products. If you want to be absolutely sure about the stability of your finished product you will have to invest in some testing equipment and use it on every batch. As for actual experience without the testing equipment I have seen excellent shelf life on batches that were handled properly and cooked correctly. As you get more experience you will be able to tell which batches are going to last and which ones are not. If everything goes well on my batches I can store chamber sealed snack sticks in the freezer for over a year, in the refrigerator for 3-6 months and at room temperature for at least 2-3 weeks. It took me many batches and lots of storage testing to see what works and what doesn’t. Do your homework on safe food handling and cooking temperatures and you will save a ton of time and materials. It also extremely helpful to reach out a commercial snack stick processor for tips and suggestions. Most I have contacted are very willing to help smaller processors that are only making a few batches a month. Hopefully others will weigh in on this and give you enough information to get you headed in the right direction.

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        Walton’s products are an excellent start to making shelf stable snack sticks but the process is really the key. If you understand the chemistry and cooking process you can make very stable products. If you want to be absolutely sure about the stability of your finished product you will have to invest in some testing equipment and use it on every batch. As for actual experience without the testing equipment I have seen excellent shelf life on batches that were handled properly and cooked correctly. As you get more experience you will be able to tell which batches are going to last and which ones are not. If everything goes well on my batches I can store chamber sealed snack sticks in the freezer for over a year, in the refrigerator for 3-6 months and at room temperature for at least 2-3 weeks. It took me many batches and lots of storage testing to see what works and what doesn’t. Do your homework on safe food handling and cooking temperatures and you will save a ton of time and materials. It also extremely helpful to reach out a commercial snack stick processor for tips and suggestions. Most I have contacted are very willing to help smaller processors that are only making a few batches a month. Hopefully others will weigh in on this and give you enough information to get you headed in the right direction.

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        vjbutler very positive advise. Thank you for the information.

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          dmdeshotels What vjbutler said is absolutely correct! If you are looking to be 100% sure on every batch you need at the very least a water activity meter and you really should get a pH meter as well. You might be able to pick some of this up second hand, we sell a Testo pH meter at a pretty reasonable price but a water activity meter you are looking at about $1,000 for a quality one.

          Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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            One thing to check into that would help you is potasium sorbate. Spraying that on the sausages and allowing to dry before packaging will greatly help with mold production as well.

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              One thing to check into that would help you is potasium sorbate. Spraying that on the sausages and allowing to dry before packaging will greatly help with mold production as well.

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              lamurscrappy That is great tip. Thank you.

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                Very interested in using the Potasium Sorbate, where would i find this product, didn’t see it here, though i may have missed it too.

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                  i have 1 more question before i go, i’m using the sweet maple bacon , Excalibur snack stick seasoning. made my first small batch a couple days ago. i need to find out the propler procedure working the bacon with the 93% burger. my first try i pretty much cooked all the grease out of the bacon and then ran it through my meat grinder with the burger and mixed. only made 5# total, couldn’t really taste the bacon, also i had daughter giver her opinion, she said she couldn’t taste the bacon either. HELP!!!

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                    cornpatachguy Here is a link to Potassium Sorbate the smallest amount we sell if 5 lb which might not sound like much, but you only use 3 oz of this to a gallon of water as a rinse, so it will go a very long way!

                    As for your snack sticks, why did you cook all the fat out of the bacon? If you are using 93% lean beef then you absolutely want that fat from the bacon. With that low of a fat content I’m not surprised you had trouble tasting bacon. Fat acts as a great vehicle for taste as it coats your mouth and lets the taste of the seasoning, or whatever, linger longer and stronger. I’d do it again without cooking the fat out first. You will probably also have a better consistency if you do it this way.

                    Get more help with your processing questions and learn more about processing meat by subscribing to our waltonsinc.com youtube page at https://wltns.link/waltonstv I am a Gorilla, love yourself

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                      lamurscrappy That is great tip. Thank you.

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                      vjbutler your welcome 🙂

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