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Tender roast beef and roast pork?

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    glen
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    Have you tried pre-slicing then a few hours in a slow cooker or sous vide ?

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      Have you tried pre-slicing then a few hours in a slow cooker or sous vide ?

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      glen I have. It was not appetizing. Its strange seeing med rare beef come out completely grey. And it seemed to dry it out even more, and loss of flavor.

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        It’s a pain but my best round roast is when I inject it 2 days before with beef bouillon then deep fry to desired temp., cool down and slice very thin.
        Probably not Arby’s texture wise but It has wowed every rare or medium rare beef lover I know

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          glen i believe if you search the site Jonathon has a post about making roast beef.

          Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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            glen i believe if you search the site Jonathon has a post about making roast beef.

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            Tex_77

            I have looked at that recipe. It includes a injection seasoning that i have not really looked into as far as additives. Not saying it isn’t good. Just not sure its going to produce the unatural tender and juicy results i am looking for.

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              glen i believe if you search the site Jonathon has a post about making roast beef.

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              Tex_77 I am more than happy with deep fried roast, it’s just a pain for a home cook to mess with that quantity of oil

              But I will certainly look

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                It’s a pain but my best round roast is when I inject it 2 days before with beef bouillon then deep fry to desired temp., cool down and slice very thin.
                Probably not Arby’s texture wise but It has wowed every rare or medium rare beef lover I know

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                glen
                Thats interesting. I have deep fried Turkeys with great results. Never thought to try a beef or pork roast. I do have a long meat probe that should keep the wire portion above the Turkey Fryer just to monitor temps and pull before 125F for beef and 140F for pork, i would assume at 375F the carry over would be at least 10F degrees.

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                  mikemikemike I have used the butter injection and it is really good!

                  Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                    mikemikemike I have used the butter injection and it is really good!

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                    Tex_77

                    I am tempted to order it. I am writing down a list of additives, and casings…ect…ect that i want to try. I just want to get a nice big order before i use the coupon code.

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                      Tex_77

                      I am tempted to order it. I am writing down a list of additives, and casings…ect…ect that i want to try. I just want to get a nice big order before i use the coupon code.

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                      mikemikemike Get butter garlic rub as well, it is excellent. Soluble Pa’s Black Bull is an excellent injection as well.

                      Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                        glen
                        Thats interesting. I have deep fried Turkeys with great results. Never thought to try a beef or pork roast. I do have a long meat probe that should keep the wire portion above the Turkey Fryer just to monitor temps and pull before 125F for beef and 140F for pork, i would assume at 375F the carry over would be at least 10F degrees.

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                        mikemikemike Yes there is carry over and I use 353 to 375F.
                        I try and get the roundest shaped roast I can.
                        I have also used lean chuck but with the fat streaks it works better to truss it to prevent splitting along fat lines

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                          mikemikemike Yes there is carry over and I use 353 to 375F.
                          I try and get the roundest shaped roast I can.
                          I have also used lean chuck but with the fat streaks it works better to truss it to prevent splitting along fat lines

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                          glen
                          Thats one thing i did not like with Chuck and sous vide is the fat. I tried seperating the muscles removing the large fat streaks inbetween, and using meat glue (aka transglutaminase) to bind the muscles back together.

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                            glen
                            Thats one thing i did not like with Chuck and sous vide is the fat. I tried seperating the muscles removing the large fat streaks inbetween, and using meat glue (aka transglutaminase) to bind the muscles back together.

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                            mikemikemike Good to know, I have been wanting to try a sous vide chuck

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                              mikemikemike Good to know, I have been wanting to try a sous vide chuck

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                              glen
                              Its a fun experiment. If serving as faux prime rib, i suggest leaving fat intact. It after 24 hours it will almost gelatinize (is that a word?) But if slicing thin for sandwiches, the fat needs to be removed.

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                                Tex_77

                                I have looked at that recipe. It includes a injection seasoning that i have not really looked into as far as additives. Not saying it isn’t good. Just not sure its going to produce the unatural tender and juicy results i am looking for.

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                                mikemikemike said in Tender roast beef and roast pork?:

                                unatural tender

                                I think you hit the problem nail right on the head. That texture of Arby’s is not natural, and it doesn’t look like any sort of cut. It kinda freaks me out that way.

                                Anyhow, I recall reading somewhere that Arby’s beef arrives packed in a bag of liquid stuff. It’s cooked in that bag of stuff and then sliced to order. That might inform your process.

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                                  mikemikemike said in Tender roast beef and roast pork?:

                                  unatural tender

                                  I think you hit the problem nail right on the head. That texture of Arby’s is not natural, and it doesn’t look like any sort of cut. It kinda freaks me out that way.

                                  Anyhow, I recall reading somewhere that Arby’s beef arrives packed in a bag of liquid stuff. It’s cooked in that bag of stuff and then sliced to order. That might inform your process.

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                                  TexLaw

                                  I have heard this rumor as well. Personally, i don’t care , its delicious, tender and juicy. It could be made out of bull testicles for all i care. I love me some of dat.

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                                    glen
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                                    Whoa, mountain oysters, we have a fry twice a year

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                                      Whoa, mountain oysters, we have a fry twice a year

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                                      glen Austin and Jonathon tried to make them, but it was clear they had no idea what they were doing.

                                      Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                                        glen Austin and Jonathon tried to make them, but it was clear they had no idea what they were doing.

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                                        Tex_77
                                        Do tell. That’s Hilarious. I assume you are from Colorado. I honestly havent looked into where @Walton-s is from. But they seem to do there research when it comes to meats. That said, we are talking about organs now, lol.

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                                          Do tell. That’s Hilarious. I assume you are from Colorado. I honestly havent looked into where @Walton-s is from. But they seem to do there research when it comes to meats. That said, we are talking about organs now, lol.

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                                          mikemikemike Walton’s is infact located in an old cowtown itself, Wichita, KS, which at one time was the Northern end of the Chisholm Trail.

                                          Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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