Cured Sausage help/question
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My cured sausage is coming out of the smoker quite greasy and I’m wondering if it’s normal or do I need to change my process. The last batch went something like this. 10.9lbs of venison (with 30% pork fat added), plus 30% untrimmed pork butt, plus cure and spice mix. I did not use a binder. The product turns out good and is juicy, but when I take it off the smoker it’s greasy. I’m using a Yoder ys640 with a starting temp of 150 which it has a hard time keeping, the low temp is from 170-190. I rotate as best I can not to get thing to hot to fast. I leave the temp at 150 for 2 hours then bump to 160 and with the fluctuation of temps I end up with a completed cook with IT’s at 150-160 in about 4-4.5 hours pulling them as they get to temp. So, my questions are 1. Is the greasy product I’m getting normal? 2. If not what should I do to fix the problem? I have thought about getting a PK100 but am wondering if I would end up in the same space. Am I getting to hot to fast? I would like to expand the products I’m making but I’m concerned that not being able to control my temps I would be unhappy.
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My cured sausage is coming out of the smoker quite greasy and I’m wondering if it’s normal or do I need to change my process. The last batch went something like this. 10.9lbs of venison (with 30% pork fat added), plus 30% untrimmed pork butt, plus cure and spice mix. I did not use a binder. The product turns out good and is juicy, but when I take it off the smoker it’s greasy. I’m using a Yoder ys640 with a starting temp of 150 which it has a hard time keeping, the low temp is from 170-190. I rotate as best I can not to get thing to hot to fast. I leave the temp at 150 for 2 hours then bump to 160 and with the fluctuation of temps I end up with a completed cook with IT’s at 150-160 in about 4-4.5 hours pulling them as they get to temp. So, my questions are 1. Is the greasy product I’m getting normal? 2. If not what should I do to fix the problem? I have thought about getting a PK100 but am wondering if I would end up in the same space. Am I getting to hot to fast? I would like to expand the products I’m making but I’m concerned that not being able to control my temps I would be unhappy.
Thanks for your advice,Miller I think your cooking schedule is ok and all electric anything will vary in temp during heat cycles there for I would guess that 1 your protein extraction is lacking and 2 the use of a binder to hold everything together will be the answer
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My cured sausage is coming out of the smoker quite greasy and I’m wondering if it’s normal or do I need to change my process. The last batch went something like this. 10.9lbs of venison (with 30% pork fat added), plus 30% untrimmed pork butt, plus cure and spice mix. I did not use a binder. The product turns out good and is juicy, but when I take it off the smoker it’s greasy. I’m using a Yoder ys640 with a starting temp of 150 which it has a hard time keeping, the low temp is from 170-190. I rotate as best I can not to get thing to hot to fast. I leave the temp at 150 for 2 hours then bump to 160 and with the fluctuation of temps I end up with a completed cook with IT’s at 150-160 in about 4-4.5 hours pulling them as they get to temp. So, my questions are 1. Is the greasy product I’m getting normal? 2. If not what should I do to fix the problem? I have thought about getting a PK100 but am wondering if I would end up in the same space. Am I getting to hot to fast? I would like to expand the products I’m making but I’m concerned that not being able to control my temps I would be unhappy.
Thanks for your advice,Miller my opinion is your a bit heavy on fat ratio and your smoker starts out too high
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Miller I think your cooking schedule is ok and all electric anything will vary in temp during heat cycles there for I would guess that 1 your protein extraction is lacking and 2 the use of a binder to hold everything together will be the answer
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iv done that.and was mad as heack .all that work. to destroy 2 days of labor. theres to much fat there.if your pork butt was trimed of its fat you would of been good to go.your heat got to hot in the start or got to hot to fast in the end and it fatted out.i hate that when it happens.
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craigrice Yes, I’d say protein extraction is at least a portion of this. twilliams also has a good point, it is a little too much fat. If you are adding 30% pork fat, adding 30% more untrimmed butts is gonna put you a little higher than is ideal. At some point, no matter how much protein you have extracted or what binder you use, some fat is going to render out.
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craigrice Yes, I’d say protein extraction is at least a portion of this. twilliams also has a good point, it is a little too much fat. If you are adding 30% pork fat, adding 30% more untrimmed butts is gonna put you a little higher than is ideal. At some point, no matter how much protein you have extracted or what binder you use, some fat is going to render out.
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Jonathon so, what I’m herring you say is, perhaps 30-35% fat overall is where I should be and if adding pork try to use trimmed pork if I have already added 30% to my meat block, and I should always use a binder like carrot fiber.
Miller look for 25% fat overall at the max on your meat block. You can use carrot binder if you wish but i never use a binder and my batches come out holding together. You just need to mix thoroughly to get good protein extraction
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Miller Yeah, unless you are going for something very specific, like chorizo, 30% is the max fat you want to go with. Carrot fiber or sure gel is almost always a good idea with cured sausage, not as important with fresh but with cured sausage I always use it
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