@ndmike I’m retired after 41 years at Goodyear tire plant radial truck department.

I have switch to waltons 21mm casings. start mine in el smoker at 140 1hr, 150 2hr 160 2hr 170 2 hr 180 until internal of 160 is reached. Bring in and hang at room temp for 2 - 3 hrs. Cut and vacuum seal. I do not water bath my sticks. For me no bath makes my casings tighten up on sticks. It got rid of my loose casings alone with smoking low and slow. Each to has own this just works for my stick eaters.

How many people use sure gel in making snack sticks.

RJ Adventures electric master built 30” and 40”