Thanks for the info. I bought a large jug of Soy Protein early on and have been using it as a binder but might have to try the carrot fiber. I see the carrot fiber mentioned a lot on this site. You nailed it on the condom comment. Consistency of the meat is spot on, so I think every thing else is close to spot on. This last batch I took the time to just peel the casing off then bagged them up. Thanks