@jonathon THANKS for the information, first thing I did not hold the bologna over night. With your information and the video, I think the problem is hand mixing. I never had problem with my home recipes. I HAVE NEVER USED CITRIC ACID. I WILL WRITE BACK AFTER I TRY THE NEXT BATCH, IT MAY BE A MONTH OR TWO . I WILL PROBABLY TRYING THE CARROT FIBER . AND MIXING BETTER THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!