Bob Stehlik LOL As an old model railroader I immediately had a similar thought!

Ooops! Harkness- not Hardness. I hate spell correct!

Hardness thanks for that info. I was wondering what, if anything I could substitute for milk based Sure Gel since I am lactose intolerant. This sounds perfect!

Hehe. Easy mistake Randyman. I probably only noticed because I am a retired architectural specification writer and proof reader! It’s all in the details!

Randyman-no silly questions. But no not the same. For fruit, we use Sure Jell. For meat, use Sure Gel. Do your Google search and include the words “for meat” or “for summer sausage”, and it will take you to the right one instead of defaulting to the Sure Jell for fruit.