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Pepperoni snack sticks, 19mm smoked and 21mm fresh collagen casings

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  • GrimpuppyG Offline
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    Grimpuppy
    Team Blue Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    I am sure it works, just picturing it in my head made me laugh.

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    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

      Spidey said ok to post his recipe, so here it is in amounts per 1000g or 1kg of meat, where spices are in grams. Move the decimal 1 to left to get %, so 2.5g is 0.25% of a 1000g meat block.
      500g ground beef
      500g ground pork
      13 g salt, 1.3%
      2.5g pepper black
      2.5g pepper white
      1.4g ground mustard
      2.4g crushed toasted fennel
      2.0 g anise, toasted
      2.0 g garlic powder
      2.4 g sugar
      3.3 g paprika
      2.6 g crushed red pepper
      1.5 g cayenne pepper
      10% water, so 100ml

      I also added:
      20g NonFat Dry Milk, so 2% as binder
      4.2 g MSG, so 0.42%. Little less than recommended on Accent bottle, about 2/3.

      These all started as whole T and t, so these wierd grams are just what that weighed out to. It’s easy to make a mistake typing all the actual grams divided by 3585g meat block, but pretty sure I did these right, they are all in the 1 to 3 gram per kg meat usage region Marianski recommends for all these in his book usage charts. I had to start with tsp then convert by 1.5 for my larger recipe, then weigh… so, if you see something off it’s possible, let me know 😉
      However, you could easily cut a spice in half or add 50% and I think you’d still be in ballpark.

      Spidey recipe actually doubles the black pepper, red pepper, and cayenne, for the hot version. My personal taste, I wouldn’t try that until doing regular version, which I think is pretty spicy already. Even as a kimchee eating hot Thai food loving guy 😉

      mrobisrM Offline
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      mrobisr
      Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
      wrote on last edited by
      #11

      Dave in AZ Thank you for the recipe.

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      • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

        Dave in AZ said in Pepperoni snack sticks, 19mm smoked and 21mm fresh collagen casings:

        Cut, bagged in 1 layer, SUCKED AIR OUT WITH A STRAW, ice bath 40 min, then out to dry.
        20220520_172726.jpg

        Haha, that is funny 😂

        Denny OD Offline
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        Denny O
        Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
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        • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

          Dave in AZ said in Pepperoni snack sticks, 19mm smoked and 21mm fresh collagen casings:

          Cut, bagged in 1 layer, SUCKED AIR OUT WITH A STRAW, ice bath 40 min, then out to dry.
          20220520_172726.jpg

          Haha, that is funny 😂

          Denny OD Offline
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          Denny O
          Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
          wrote on last edited by Denny O
          #13

          Grimpuppy How about these?
          Vacuum-Reusable-Resealable-Storage-Bags
          (https://www./Vacuum-Reusable-Resealable-Storage-Sizes15/dp/B08KFJP2MY/ref=asc_df_B08KFJP2MY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475718470701&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5334592860422434796&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9017954&hvtargid=pla-1019473695504&psc=1)

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          • Denny OD Denny O

            Grimpuppy How about these?
            Vacuum-Reusable-Resealable-Storage-Bags
            (https://www./Vacuum-Reusable-Resealable-Storage-Sizes15/dp/B08KFJP2MY/ref=asc_df_B08KFJP2MY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475718470701&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5334592860422434796&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9017954&hvtargid=pla-1019473695504&psc=1)

            GrimpuppyG Offline
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            Grimpuppy
            Team Blue Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
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            #14

            Denny O said in Pepperoni snack sticks, 19mm smoked and 21mm fresh collagen casings:

            Grimpuppy How about these?
            Vacuum-Reusable-Resealable-Storage-Bags
            (https://www./Vacuum-Reusable-Resealable-Storage-Sizes15/dp/B08KFJP2MY/ref=asc_df_B08KFJP2MY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475718470701&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5334592860422434796&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9017954&hvtargid=pla-1019473695504&psc=1)

            I can’t get the link to work, but I do have the Waltons ziplock vacuum bags.

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            • Denny OD Offline
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              Denny O
              Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              The link would not take for me. All you need to do is copy including the ( ) and paste then >

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              • GrimpuppyG Offline
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                Grimpuppy
                Team Blue Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                The link is missing the domain. Is it from Waltons.com?

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                • Denny OD Offline
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                  Denny O
                  Power User Cast Iron Canning Green Mountain Grill
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  https://www.amazon.com/Vacuum-Reusable-Resealable-Storage-Sizes15/dp/B08KFJP2MY/ref=asc_df_B08KFJP2MY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475718470701&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11770068811707063292&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9017954&hvtargid=pla-1019473695504&psc=1

                  https://www.amazon.com/FoodSaver®-Reusable-FoodSaver-Handheld-Sealers/dp/B09Q993PCD?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

                  I have used the following two, quart and gallon.

                  https://www.foodsaver.com/bags-containers/specialty-bags-rolls/zipper-bags/foodsaver-vacuum-zipper-quart-bags-34-count/SAP_FSFRBZ0226027.html

                  https://www.foodsaver.com/bags-containers/specialty-bags-rolls/zipper-bags/foodsaver-vacuum-zipper-gallon-bags-12-count/SAP_FSFRBZ0316NP.html

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                  • Dave in AZD Offline
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                    Dave in AZ
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    20220615_122746.jpg
                    Update!
                    I left a snack stick out on counter for 5 days drying, Phoenix humidity. It got almost bone dry, only moisture and flex comes from the fat. Wow what a surprise, really fantastic, super concentrated flavor. Closest to a slim Jim I’ve ever come!

                    Next time, I will run some of these at 135 to dry in the smoker on just oven heat, after they have cooked and had their lethality treatment to like 155, so it is safe. I will target 30% weight loss then see how that looks for shelf stability. But these super dry ones are just fantastic! Only change I’d make is reduce the heat as it is very concentrated when drier.

                    In any case, the 7 Log-10 lethality dwell time at 135f is 37 min, so long as it is a moist high humidity heat, which sausage in collagen casing qualifies for. Per USFDA FSIS Cooking Guideline for Meat and Poultry 2021. And their 2014 Jerky guidelines, which are good to look at for proper procedures when drying stuff like jerky or snack sticks.

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                    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                      20220615_122746.jpg
                      Update!
                      I left a snack stick out on counter for 5 days drying, Phoenix humidity. It got almost bone dry, only moisture and flex comes from the fat. Wow what a surprise, really fantastic, super concentrated flavor. Closest to a slim Jim I’ve ever come!

                      Next time, I will run some of these at 135 to dry in the smoker on just oven heat, after they have cooked and had their lethality treatment to like 155, so it is safe. I will target 30% weight loss then see how that looks for shelf stability. But these super dry ones are just fantastic! Only change I’d make is reduce the heat as it is very concentrated when drier.

                      In any case, the 7 Log-10 lethality dwell time at 135f is 37 min, so long as it is a moist high humidity heat, which sausage in collagen casing qualifies for. Per USFDA FSIS Cooking Guideline for Meat and Poultry 2021. And their 2014 Jerky guidelines, which are good to look at for proper procedures when drying stuff like jerky or snack sticks.

                      Bob StehlikB Offline
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                      Bob Stehlik
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      Dave in AZ Try drying out your Kabanos in the fridge to that point. It’s really good. Polish Hunters Sausage.

                      Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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