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    mccracs1
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    I’m going to make summer sausage with deer meat. I picked up the ingredients while I was in Wichita. However I forgot the sure gel binder . Is there something I could substitute that I can buy like at
    the grocery store so I don’t have to wait on shipping?

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    • M mccracs1

      I’m going to make summer sausage with deer meat. I picked up the ingredients while I was in Wichita. However I forgot the sure gel binder . Is there something I could substitute that I can buy like at
      the grocery store so I don’t have to wait on shipping?

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      kyle
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      mccracs1 powdered milk works.

      hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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        I’m going to make summer sausage with deer meat. I picked up the ingredients while I was in Wichita. However I forgot the sure gel binder . Is there something I could substitute that I can buy like at
        the grocery store so I don’t have to wait on shipping?

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        mccracs1 yep, nonfat dry milk. High temp stuff specifically made for meat/sausage works a little better, but the stuff from grocery store still works great and will solve your issues. From Marianski’s book:
        Non fat dry milk powder is a good natural product and it does not affect the flavor of the product. It is added at about 3% and effectively binds water and emulsifies fats.

        So for 1000g meat i.e. 2.2 lbs, use 30grams nonfat dry milk.

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        • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

          mccracs1 yep, nonfat dry milk. High temp stuff specifically made for meat/sausage works a little better, but the stuff from grocery store still works great and will solve your issues. From Marianski’s book:
          Non fat dry milk powder is a good natural product and it does not affect the flavor of the product. It is added at about 3% and effectively binds water and emulsifies fats.

          So for 1000g meat i.e. 2.2 lbs, use 30grams nonfat dry milk.

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          Dave in AZ Yep, even works great for thickening homemade sour cream, yoghurt, & buttermilk too, to make them more of a Bulgarian style.

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            Dave in AZ Yep, even works great for thickening homemade sour cream, yoghurt, & buttermilk too, to make them more of a Bulgarian style.

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            calldoctoday I always add 2 c of NFDM to 1 gallon of milk for yogurt myself, results in a thicker yogurt for me. 😉 never made sour cream, but I sure eat a lot of it… hmmm…

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            • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

              calldoctoday I always add 2 c of NFDM to 1 gallon of milk for yogurt myself, results in a thicker yogurt for me. 😉 never made sour cream, but I sure eat a lot of it… hmmm…

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              Dave in AZ We add about 6-7 TBSPNs per half gallon of yoghurt, give or take, depending on how long we have been running that culture. Two TBSPNs - 1/4 cup for Butter Milk, there again, depending on how long we have been running that culture. We like the thicker, perfect Bulgarian Yoghurt & Buttermilk, it is real nice. I eat it plain & love it, but sometimes we mix fruit, cinnamon, or nutmeg with it.

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                I’m going to make summer sausage with deer meat. I picked up the ingredients while I was in Wichita. However I forgot the sure gel binder . Is there something I could substitute that I can buy like at
                the grocery store so I don’t have to wait on shipping?

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                mccracs1 I just made moose salami and added 2 to 3 % potato flour to the mix just like Putins boys. The results were fantastic and the salami sliced easily and tasted great.

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                  I’m going to make summer sausage with deer meat. I picked up the ingredients while I was in Wichita. However I forgot the sure gel binder . Is there something I could substitute that I can buy like at
                  the grocery store so I don’t have to wait on shipping?

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                  mccracs1 said in Forgot the binder:

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