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Kielbasa vs ring bologna

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    I make a lot of trail bologna. I used to use 1.5x12" fiber casings. Great size for a cracker
    As for texture, i think a smoked kiel should have a courser grind than a trail/ring. I feel any kind of bologna should be a very fine texture. You should do what you like either way

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      I make a lot of trail bologna. I used to use 1.5x12" fiber casings. Great size for a cracker
      As for texture, i think a smoked kiel should have a courser grind than a trail/ring. I feel any kind of bologna should be a very fine texture. You should do what you like either way

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      smokinbubba i am doing them for others, i want it better than store bought. Just am not sure of the difference between ring bologna and kielbasa.

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        I make a lot of trail bologna. I used to use 1.5x12" fiber casings. Great size for a cracker
        As for texture, i think a smoked kiel should have a courser grind than a trail/ring. I feel any kind of bologna should be a very fine texture. You should do what you like either way

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        smokinbubba 20210315_181607.jpg

        Here is how it turned out

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        • twilliamsT twilliams

          smokinbubba i am doing them for others, i want it better than store bought. Just am not sure of the difference between ring bologna and kielbasa.

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          twilliams said in Kielbasa vs ring bologna:

          smokinbubba i am doing them for others, i want it better than store bought. Just am not sure of the difference between ring bologna and kielbasa.

          @ twilliams Have you seen this web site? It is a pretty good reference on different sausage styles and the traditional ingredients in their formulation. This write up on kielbasa is pretty good.
          I could not find a similar write up here on bologna, but their are a few recipes for different styles.

          [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausages-by-country/polish-sausages/kielbasa(link url)

          [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausage-recipes/cooked/american/bologna-country(link url)

          [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausage-recipes/cooked/american/bologna-country(link url)

          [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausage-recipes(link url)

          Paul

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            The link above on kielbasa states that traditional polish recipes use recipes that have the have the emphasis on salt, sugar, black pepper, garlic, marjoram and cure. That is consistent with the formulas I have seen from other sources for traditional polish sausage and kielbasa including Kutas. Many of the kielbasa recipes are heavy on the garlic.

            Bologna has a quite different flavor and texture than most Polish sausage/ kielbasa. Commercial bologna is usually a fine textured emulsified product, light on the smoke, and mildly seasoned. The recipes for trail or country bologna are usually coarser textured and probably a lot easier to duplicate for a small processer without a high speed bowl chopper that is needed for the commercial styles of fine textured bologna.

            Another comment I see often is that traditional bologna recipes and processing is generally not all that different than what is used for wieners, aside from the obvious difference in casing size and the cook/smoke cycle time

            Paul

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            • twilliamsT twilliams

              Gonna be doing the Roasted garlic ring bologna and the Signature Smoked Kielbasa. The thing is they both recommend the 18"×40mm nonedible casing which seems more like a ring bologna size and roundness. I think of kielbasa being a little longer in its loop and maybe i little skinnier. What is the difference in final product between these two? Is kielbasa a finer texture? Is kielbasa a different meat block? Meat block is gonna be
              15lbs venison
              7.5 pounds pork trim
              2.5 pounds pork fat
              1 package sure gel
              1 package sure cure
              2 qts water
              Then split in 12.5 lb batches

              Also do people remove the nonedible casing before vacuum sealing?

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              twilliams said in Kielbasa vs ring bologna:

              Gonna be doing the Roasted garlic ring bologna and the Signature Smoked Kielbasa.

              Just read this again and was wondering about the first seasoning you listed? Not seeing roasted garlic ring bologna.

              Am I missing something or did you mean a different seasoning?

              Paul

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                twilliams said in Kielbasa vs ring bologna:

                smokinbubba i am doing them for others, i want it better than store bought. Just am not sure of the difference between ring bologna and kielbasa.

                @ twilliams Have you seen this web site? It is a pretty good reference on different sausage styles and the traditional ingredients in their formulation. This write up on kielbasa is pretty good.
                I could not find a similar write up here on bologna, but their are a few recipes for different styles.

                [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausages-by-country/polish-sausages/kielbasa(link url)

                [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausage-recipes/cooked/american/bologna-country(link url)

                [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausage-recipes/cooked/american/bologna-country(link url)

                [link text]https://www.meatsandsausages.com/sausage-recipes(link url)

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                processhead thank you

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                  twilliams said in Kielbasa vs ring bologna:

                  Gonna be doing the Roasted garlic ring bologna and the Signature Smoked Kielbasa.

                  Just read this again and was wondering about the first seasoning you listed? Not seeing roasted garlic ring bologna.

                  Am I missing something or did you mean a different seasoning?

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                  processhead Screenshot_20210316-151810_Chrome.jpg
                  Its under cured speciality sausage

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                    Got it.
                    Ok, I will stop yacking about bologna…

                    Paul

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                      Got it.
                      Ok, I will stop yacking about bologna…

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                      processhead said in Kielbasa vs ring bologna:

                      Got it.
                      Ok, I will stop yacking about bologna…

                      …and will be interested to hear your impressions of the finished product using the two different seasonings.

                      Paul

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