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  • mrobisrM mrobisr

    wvhunter1965 said in Chipped Deer:

    Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

    Will let you know how it turns out when done!

    If you have sure cure or cure #1 use it instead of TQ.

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    kyle
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    mrobisr so why not tender quick?

    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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      mrobisr so why not tender quick?

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      kyle said in Chipped Deer:

      mrobisr so why not tender quick?

      If you are just going to dehydrate it at low temps it will be fine, but if you will fry it (high temps) the nitrates in TQ/Sugarcure turn into nitrosamines which are not good for us. TQ/Sugarcure contains nitrates and nitrites and that is actually cure #2 which is used for non-cooked meats. For meats that are cured for <30 days all you need is surecure/cure #1 nitrite. For non-cooked meats that are cured for >30 days then #2 cure which contains nitrates and nitrities is the only choice.

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      • kyleK kyle

        mrobisr so why not tender quick?

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        kyle said in Chipped Deer:

        mrobisr so why not tender quick?

        Will a little TQ on high heat hurt you… probable not, but why chance it when it does NOT help your final product. For the most part if the final product is to be cooked then use surecure/cure #1, if you are making non-cooked/charcutrie then use cure #2 which contains both cures #1 & 2.

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        • kyleK kyle

          mrobisr so why not tender quick?

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          kyle said in Chipped Deer:

          mrobisr so why not tender quick?

          Commercially, nitrate is no longer allowed for use in curing of smoked and cooked meats, non-smoked and cooked meats, or sausages (US FDA 1999). However, nitrate is still allowed in small amounts in the making of dry cured uncooked products. Home food preservers should avoid the direct use of this chemical and opt for the mixtures described above.
          https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/lit_rev/cure_smoke_cure.html

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          • mrobisrM mrobisr

            kyle said in Chipped Deer:

            mrobisr so why not tender quick?

            Commercially, nitrate is no longer allowed for use in curing of smoked and cooked meats, non-smoked and cooked meats, or sausages (US FDA 1999). However, nitrate is still allowed in small amounts in the making of dry cured uncooked products. Home food preservers should avoid the direct use of this chemical and opt for the mixtures described above.
            https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/lit_rev/cure_smoke_cure.html

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            mrobisr thanks for the info. I will have to look into this and figure out how much #1 I would have to use and if it changes the flavor

            hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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            • kyleK kyle

              mrobisr thanks for the info. I will have to look into this and figure out how much #1 I would have to use and if it changes the flavor

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              kyle said in Chipped Deer:

              mrobisr thanks for the info. I will have to look into this and figure out haw much #1 I would have to use and if it changes the flavor

              It will NOT change the flavor at all!

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                So, mrobisr, I suppose my question would be if I am using sure cure, what is the amount of water to use along with the recipe that kyle showed? The conversion chart shows the following for Sure Cure which does not give an amount for water but lists N/A in both 1lb and 5 lb meat quantities.

                Sure Cure (Pink) 45604900091/4 tsp (.04 oz / 1 g) N/A 1 1/4 tsp (.2 oz / 5 g) N/A

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                • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

                  So, mrobisr, I suppose my question would be if I am using sure cure, what is the amount of water to use along with the recipe that kyle showed? The conversion chart shows the following for Sure Cure which does not give an amount for water but lists N/A in both 1lb and 5 lb meat quantities.

                  Sure Cure (Pink) 45604900091/4 tsp (.04 oz / 1 g) N/A 1 1/4 tsp (.2 oz / 5 g) N/A

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                  wvhunter1965 to equal the TQ salt level and proper nitrite level add,
                  21.2g/5 1/4tsp sure cure into a measured cup of non-iodized salt mixed into 4 cups water. Hopefully my words haven’t failed me, but total cure and salt should equal 1 measured cup.

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                  • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

                    Kyle, getting ready to try the chipped beef recipe that you posted. Will add a drying process to the end as I agree with craigrice that it needs to be dried. I seem to prefer it dried.

                    Will let you know how it turns out when done!

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                    wvhunter1965 I would like to see some pictures of the chipped deer.I have never heard of it but would like to try some. Thanks

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                    • cdavisC cdavis

                      wvhunter1965 I would like to see some pictures of the chipped deer.I have never heard of it but would like to try some. Thanks

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                      This is a venison roast I cured, smoked, dried and cut thin slices. Was very good as chipped venison.

                      IMG_20201210_102406664.jpg

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                      • R Ron Grisar

                        This is a venison roast I cured, smoked, dried and cut thin slices. Was very good as chipped venison.

                        IMG_20201210_102406664.jpg

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                        Ron Grisar That looks very good.

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                        • R Ron Grisar

                          This is a venison roast I cured, smoked, dried and cut thin slices. Was very good as chipped venison.

                          IMG_20201210_102406664.jpg

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                          Ron Grisar that really looks good!

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                          • R Ron Grisar

                            This is a venison roast I cured, smoked, dried and cut thin slices. Was very good as chipped venison.

                            IMG_20201210_102406664.jpg

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                            Ron Grisar thanks for the picture. It does look look really good 👍.

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                            • mrobisrM mrobisr

                              wvhunter1965 to equal the TQ salt level and proper nitrite level add,
                              21.2g/5 1/4tsp sure cure into a measured cup of non-iodized salt mixed into 4 cups water. Hopefully my words haven’t failed me, but total cure and salt should equal 1 measured cup.

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                              mrobisr ,

                              Thanks for the info, sorry to be such a rookie but I am learning!

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                              • R Ron Grisar

                                This is a venison roast I cured, smoked, dried and cut thin slices. Was very good as chipped venison.

                                IMG_20201210_102406664.jpg

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                                Ron Grisar Looks very good.

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                                • wvhunter1965W wvhunter1965

                                  mrobisr ,

                                  Thanks for the info, sorry to be such a rookie but I am learning!

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                                  wvhunter1965 said in Chipped Deer:

                                  mrobisr ,

                                  Thanks for the info, sorry to be such a rookie but I am learning!

                                  We were all rookies at one time or another.

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