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    A sad morning. I lost four chickens to a predator overnight. I got them moved into the mobile coop yesterday. Last night was their first overnight in the mobile coop. It looks like a predator was able to get underneath and kill several through the wire, without actually entering the coop. Most of the four were intact, but a leg or so…there was one that was halfway consumed through the hardware wire.

    I have an electrified perimeter net that I didn’t set up yesterday…bad judgement call on my end. I assumed the proximity of the coop to my shop and outdoor lighting would have been sufficient to keep predators less interested.

    I’m still at 91% survival rate, going into week 4 of 11. Predator netting from premier 1 will be going up this afternoon, as well as a trap in the proximity.

    Making a bad management decision sucks, live and learn…I suppose. One the bright side, it is better to lose a few early, rather than later as each bird has current consumed about 2lb of feed each, at this point, as compared to some 15 lbs of feed come processing time.

    Matt W.

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    • RafterWR RafterW

      A sad morning. I lost four chickens to a predator overnight. I got them moved into the mobile coop yesterday. Last night was their first overnight in the mobile coop. It looks like a predator was able to get underneath and kill several through the wire, without actually entering the coop. Most of the four were intact, but a leg or so…there was one that was halfway consumed through the hardware wire.

      I have an electrified perimeter net that I didn’t set up yesterday…bad judgement call on my end. I assumed the proximity of the coop to my shop and outdoor lighting would have been sufficient to keep predators less interested.

      I’m still at 91% survival rate, going into week 4 of 11. Predator netting from premier 1 will be going up this afternoon, as well as a trap in the proximity.

      Making a bad management decision sucks, live and learn…I suppose. One the bright side, it is better to lose a few early, rather than later as each bird has current consumed about 2lb of feed each, at this point, as compared to some 15 lbs of feed come processing time.

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      RafterW what kind of predator are we dealing with here? Did you get the culprit on your cameras?

      Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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        The little guys are pretty vulnerable to injuries and trauma. At this stage, unfortunately it doesn’t take much to kill them. Good luck with the predator controls.

        Paul

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        • RafterWR RafterW

          A sad morning. I lost four chickens to a predator overnight. I got them moved into the mobile coop yesterday. Last night was their first overnight in the mobile coop. It looks like a predator was able to get underneath and kill several through the wire, without actually entering the coop. Most of the four were intact, but a leg or so…there was one that was halfway consumed through the hardware wire.

          I have an electrified perimeter net that I didn’t set up yesterday…bad judgement call on my end. I assumed the proximity of the coop to my shop and outdoor lighting would have been sufficient to keep predators less interested.

          I’m still at 91% survival rate, going into week 4 of 11. Predator netting from premier 1 will be going up this afternoon, as well as a trap in the proximity.

          Making a bad management decision sucks, live and learn…I suppose. One the bright side, it is better to lose a few early, rather than later as each bird has current consumed about 2lb of feed each, at this point, as compared to some 15 lbs of feed come processing time.

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          RafterW my buddy was doing the same thing last week when I talked to him on phone. He was putting up fine netting on top, be sure you protect them from above. He told me owls were the #1 predator of his chicks before he started that.

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          • Tex_77T Tex_77

            RafterW what kind of predator are we dealing with here? Did you get the culprit on your cameras?

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            Tex_77 no predator on camera lastnight. Guessing racoon. I’ve had several around the house in the past few weeks. The fence is up and it is hot! I’m going to keep the chicks in the coop for another day or two, before letting them out in the grass. The coop will keep them safe during the day and the fence/coop combo will for sure keep them safe at night. Dave in AZ I hope owls don’t become a problem during the daytime. I do have some owls around our property.

            Matt W.

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            • RafterWR RafterW

              A sad morning. I lost four chickens to a predator overnight. I got them moved into the mobile coop yesterday. Last night was their first overnight in the mobile coop. It looks like a predator was able to get underneath and kill several through the wire, without actually entering the coop. Most of the four were intact, but a leg or so…there was one that was halfway consumed through the hardware wire.

              I have an electrified perimeter net that I didn’t set up yesterday…bad judgement call on my end. I assumed the proximity of the coop to my shop and outdoor lighting would have been sufficient to keep predators less interested.

              I’m still at 91% survival rate, going into week 4 of 11. Predator netting from premier 1 will be going up this afternoon, as well as a trap in the proximity.

              Making a bad management decision sucks, live and learn…I suppose. One the bright side, it is better to lose a few early, rather than later as each bird has current consumed about 2lb of feed each, at this point, as compared to some 15 lbs of feed come processing time.

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              mrobisr
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              RafterW Sorry to hear about the loss, but anything above >90% survival is a positive, so hang in there. Between electric fence and overhead netting the only problem I still have is chicken snakes and unfortunately I have just accepted that it will happen occasionally no matter what I do.

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                Week 3 of the chick’s lives wrapped up today and we are onto week four. So far the 50 birds (46 now) have consumed 100 lbs of feed total, putting them at 2lbs of feed consumed each. At a maximum, I’m shooting for no more than 18 lbs of feed necessary for each bird to finish out. Hoping that the pasture will help supplement their forage needs to lower the feed cost. My feed cost calculation is $6.43/bird, which is just over half of the cost associated with raising each bird, which I’m currently estimating at $12.28/bird. Target carcass weight is 4.5 lbs on average…$2.73/lb.

                Matt W.

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                • RafterWR RafterW

                  A sad morning. I lost four chickens to a predator overnight. I got them moved into the mobile coop yesterday. Last night was their first overnight in the mobile coop. It looks like a predator was able to get underneath and kill several through the wire, without actually entering the coop. Most of the four were intact, but a leg or so…there was one that was halfway consumed through the hardware wire.

                  I have an electrified perimeter net that I didn’t set up yesterday…bad judgement call on my end. I assumed the proximity of the coop to my shop and outdoor lighting would have been sufficient to keep predators less interested.

                  I’m still at 91% survival rate, going into week 4 of 11. Predator netting from premier 1 will be going up this afternoon, as well as a trap in the proximity.

                  Making a bad management decision sucks, live and learn…I suppose. One the bright side, it is better to lose a few early, rather than later as each bird has current consumed about 2lb of feed each, at this point, as compared to some 15 lbs of feed come processing time.

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                  calldoctoday
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                  RafterW sounds like it could be a weasel, although they will usually get into the coop or cage, one way or the other. Skinny little suckers. On the other hand, a long time ago I have caught neighbors & unknown dogs (in the act)do just that to chickens & rabbits. I mean tear them up from under the cage & just leave a bloody mess, but never actually get in the cage or hutch.

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                  • RafterWR RafterW

                    Tex_77 no predator on camera lastnight. Guessing racoon. I’ve had several around the house in the past few weeks. The fence is up and it is hot! I’m going to keep the chicks in the coop for another day or two, before letting them out in the grass. The coop will keep them safe during the day and the fence/coop combo will for sure keep them safe at night. Dave in AZ I hope owls don’t become a problem during the daytime. I do have some owls around our property.

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                    RafterW Keep us informed on what other kind of fried vittles you can work up from this. I am really curious. I am really sorry to see al this happen to & believe me, I understand. Hang in there.

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                      I’ve ordered some small solar motion lights to put on each side of the coop as well. That should be a good deterrent in itself.

                      Matt W.

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                      • RafterWR RafterW

                        Week 3 of the chick’s lives wrapped up today and we are onto week four. So far the 50 birds (46 now) have consumed 100 lbs of feed total, putting them at 2lbs of feed consumed each. At a maximum, I’m shooting for no more than 18 lbs of feed necessary for each bird to finish out. Hoping that the pasture will help supplement their forage needs to lower the feed cost. My feed cost calculation is $6.43/bird, which is just over half of the cost associated with raising each bird, which I’m currently estimating at $12.28/bird. Target carcass weight is 4.5 lbs on average…$2.73/lb.

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                        RafterW said in Self-Reliance: How do you?:

                        Hoping that the pasture will help supplement their forage needs

                        In my experience it will help, not just in lowing the feed bill, but in body composition, color, and taste of the finished product. Contrary to popular belief chickens do graze fresh grass in large amounts along with any insects they find along the way.

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                        • RafterWR RafterW

                          I’ve ordered some small solar motion lights to put on each side of the coop as well. That should be a good deterrent in itself.

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                          RafterW There are red eye lights that is claimed to help, but I have no experience with them. Lights do help immensely, but add a radio set to a talk radio station (24hr) on a timer will help more than most can imagine. It is the voices that make the varmints scatter and also things that move in irregular patterns as wind socks, chimes, and anything else that can possibly spook them. In my experience it is not the one thing that does the trick, but multiple things that seem to work together.

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                            The electrified netting did its job lastnight, no predators broke its perimeter. It is very hot, the charger is excellent.

                            I set out three dogproof foothold traps and a live trap, the traps were dug up, bait removed, but did not catch a coon. The traps were given to me, I may have baited them improperly. Going to research the proper baiting method and retry again tonight.

                            Matt W.

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                              The electrified netting did its job lastnight, no predators broke its perimeter. It is very hot, the charger is excellent.

                              I set out three dogproof foothold traps and a live trap, the traps were dug up, bait removed, but did not catch a coon. The traps were given to me, I may have baited them improperly. Going to research the proper baiting method and retry again tonight.

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                              RafterW https://youtu.be/Ie-LvYMh304 This may help

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                                RafterW https://youtu.be/Ie-LvYMh304 This may help

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                                RON PARRISH Thank you, I’ve looked up the specifics on the traps I have. They are an old style of “cooncuff”. I believe improvements to the design have been made over the years, I did pick up a few tips to keep the coons from digging them out of the ground to get to the bait below. They are an open tunnel design, as compared to the closed tunnel design of improved models.

                                Matt W.

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                                  RON PARRISH Thank you, I’ve looked up the specifics on the traps I have. They are an old style of “cooncuff”. I believe improvements to the design have been made over the years, I did pick up a few tips to keep the coons from digging them out of the ground to get to the bait below. They are an open tunnel design, as compared to the closed tunnel design of improved models.

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                                  RafterW You are welcome. Hope it helps!

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                                    RON PARRISH Thank you, I’ve looked up the specifics on the traps I have. They are an old style of “cooncuff”. I believe improvements to the design have been made over the years, I did pick up a few tips to keep the coons from digging them out of the ground to get to the bait below. They are an open tunnel design, as compared to the closed tunnel design of improved models.

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                                    RafterW What your defense for animals that can jump the hotwire?

                                    Isaiah 5:22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks

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                                      RafterW What your defense for animals that can jump the hotwire?

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                                      Tex_77 A hope and a prayer that nothing does… So far, so good on perimeter containing predators. Chickens will be on pasture tomorrow.

                                      Matt W.

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                                        Tex_77 A hope and a prayer that nothing does… So far, so good on perimeter containing predators. Chickens will be on pasture tomorrow.

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                                        RafterW
                                        Good luck avoiding the airborne predators during the day light hours. The hawks are always on the patrol around here.

                                        Paul

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                                          the freedom wagon is 97% finished. Just need to add the dowel rod handle on front to drag it around. This will provide shelter for the 50 freedom ranger chicks that will move to pasture next week. More to come in the setup.

                                          The freedom wagon is helping my family avoid market prices for chicken and gives us the freedom to choose the chicken we eat, to the fullest extent. Freedom to choose the breed to meet the goals we have for our land, freedom to choose the feed and treatment that these chickens receive that will ultimately be feeding us and friends. If all goes to plan, cost on these will be well under $3/lb and will yield 225 lbs of bone-in carcass.

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                                          RafterW great setup 👌

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