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Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?

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  • GrimpuppyG Offline
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    Grimpuppy
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    You should not add smoked meat stabilizer directly to a container of water. That is when it will gas out. It is OK to add water after you have mixed the smoked meat stabilizer into your meat mix.

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      Nice setup!

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      • M Miller

        Last weekend I made restructured jerky with some whitetail I had on hand, it was my first go at restructured. I used Smoked Meat Stabilizer so I could go right to the smoker. I didn’t add any water to the mix due to the “How to Make Homemade Restructured Jerky” video said it should not be used with water. I have an ‘all around jerky maker’ attachment for my stuffer and it was all I wanted to get it all extruded. The mix seemed a little to dry. So, my question is, is Sodium Erythorbate and Smoke Meat Stabilizer basically the same thing? And can I add water to my mix if it seems dry if I use Sodium Erythorbate?
        Thanks for the advice
        jerky2.jpg jerky1.jpg

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        Miller said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

        And can I add water to my mix if it seems dry if I use Sodium Erythorbate?

        You can absolutely use water as you desire with SE. We used SE in pickle pump solutions which is primarily water with salt, sweeteners, and a few other ingredients and that was by the ton full time. In the hams, sausages, bologna, and other meats water up to 10% of meat block was used with SE every night I worked.

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        • PapaSopP PapaSop

          Have never used either of those, but good info to stash away.

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          mrobisr
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          PapaSop said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

          Have never used either of those, but good info to stash away.

          I have used SE professionally and use it when I’m in a time crunch at home. It really has some advantages, but I really prefer to do a full cure with my meat, but life doesn’t always agree with my plans.

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          • mrobisrM mrobisr

            PapaSop said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

            Have never used either of those, but good info to stash away.

            I have used SE professionally and use it when I’m in a time crunch at home. It really has some advantages, but I really prefer to do a full cure with my meat, but life doesn’t always agree with my plans.

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            mrobisr said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

            PapaSop said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

            Have never used either of those, but good info to stash away.

            I have used SE professionally and use it when I’m in a time crunch at home. It really has some advantages, but I really prefer to do a full cure with my meat, but life doesn’t always agree with my plans.

            I actually purchased both some time ago. Guess I haven’t had that “crunch” time as of yet. Better prepared than not though.

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            • PapaSopP PapaSop

              mrobisr said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

              PapaSop said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

              Have never used either of those, but good info to stash away.

              I have used SE professionally and use it when I’m in a time crunch at home. It really has some advantages, but I really prefer to do a full cure with my meat, but life doesn’t always agree with my plans.

              I actually purchased both some time ago. Guess I haven’t had that “crunch” time as of yet. Better prepared than not though.

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              Team Blue Cast Iron Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Military Veterans Power User Regular Contributors
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              PapaSop I did the same with the stabilizer too, just in case.

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                The info on using their cure accelerator is incorrect on that page. I happened to read it earluer today, and posted this correction, exactly so folks didn’t get boofed by the misinformation presented there about not using water. This should answer your question in pretty good detail:
                https://meatgistics.waltonsinc.com/topic/625/how-to-make-homemade-restructured-jerky-recipe/16?_=1646879048128

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                  Ps I love your post with those great pics! That jerky really does look good! I was planning on making that today with some Willie’s snack stick seasoning I received 2 days ago, but the demands of a new puppy kept me too occupied, so instead just reading threads on restructured jerky and meat sticks. Yours really look great when finished!

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                  • GrimpuppyG Grimpuppy

                    You should not add smoked meat stabilizer directly to a container of water. That is when it will gas out. It is OK to add water after you have mixed the smoked meat stabilizer into your meat mix.

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                    Dave in AZ
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                    Grimpuppy said in Smoked meat stabilizer or Sodium erythorbate?:

                    You should not add smoked meat stabilizer directly to a container of water. That is when it will gas out. It is OK to add water after you have mixed the smoked meat stabilizer into your meat mix.

                    Actually it’s fine to add to water… the only problem is adding to brine with sodium nitrate, which is where the gas comes from. Adding it to water helps give a good even distribution to the meat mix. So, just don’t mixbthe sure cure i.e. cure1 with it! 😉

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                    • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

                      Ps I love your post with those great pics! That jerky really does look good! I was planning on making that today with some Willie’s snack stick seasoning I received 2 days ago, but the demands of a new puppy kept me too occupied, so instead just reading threads on restructured jerky and meat sticks. Yours really look great when finished!

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                      Dave in AZ Thank you! It was my first run at it, I will be doing it again for sure.

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                      • M Miller

                        Last weekend I made restructured jerky with some whitetail I had on hand, it was my first go at restructured. I used Smoked Meat Stabilizer so I could go right to the smoker. I didn’t add any water to the mix due to the “How to Make Homemade Restructured Jerky” video said it should not be used with water. I have an ‘all around jerky maker’ attachment for my stuffer and it was all I wanted to get it all extruded. The mix seemed a little to dry. So, my question is, is Sodium Erythorbate and Smoke Meat Stabilizer basically the same thing? And can I add water to my mix if it seems dry if I use Sodium Erythorbate?
                        Thanks for the advice
                        jerky2.jpg jerky1.jpg

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                        Miller great looking jerky. Congrats 👍

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