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  • A AK Meats

    IVERYAN sweet thanks for the tip!!! I used my kitchen aid to mix it…I think I could have mixed it more to get that protein extraction…and do you have any suggestions for a binder??

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    kyle
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    AK Meats alot of folks on here use sure gel. I have had good luck with soy protein. Carrot fiber is also an option. If you dont have any of that, I have used powdered milk in a pinch when I was out of the other stuff

    hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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      AK Meats I would use sure gel for a binder. It is milk based & contains phosphates to help with the binding. Protein extraction can be more difficult with wild game than beef or pork. It is just one more tool to make the process easier. As far as mixing goes, I would add all spices & additives to your meat 1st. Make sure your water mixed with plenty of crushed ice so it is as cold as possible. I would try not to add all the water at once. Try to add it slowly throughout the process to keep your meat from getting warm. This will allow you to mix your meat longer which will improve protein extraction & binding.

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        Sure Gel… Game changer! Now use with all snack sticks and summer sausage.

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          #21

          What equipment are you using to cook your sticks? Some smokers used for barbequing/grilling can be difficult to maintain at low temperatures needed for products like sticks.

          Your fat out problem sounds like a classic case of finishing at too high of temperature.
          Check what ever you are using to monitor the cook temps against a known-to-be- accurate thermometer.

          Paul

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          • PapaSopP PapaSop

            Sure Gel… Game changer! Now use with all snack sticks and summer sausage.

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            PapaSop tried buying it online and they wanted to charge $100 for shipping to Alaska

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            • A AK Meats

              IVERYAN sweet thanks for the tip!!! I used my kitchen aid to mix it…I think I could have mixed it more to get that protein extraction…and do you have any suggestions for a binder??

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              bocephus
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              AK Meats I have used suregel and had good luck with that, also when you think you have mixed enough see if it sticks to your hands and try and pull apart should stretch out before it breaks.

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              • A AK Meats

                PapaSop tried buying it online and they wanted to charge $100 for shipping to Alaska

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                glen
                Regular Contributors Team Grey Sous Vide Canning Dry Cured Sausage Masterbuilt Power User Meat Hack Winner Veteran
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                AK Meats Looks like Hi Mountain uses maltodextrin as a filler/binder.
                Since sure gel isn’t an option try nonfat milk powder to add more binding.
                Also great advice that others have given and protein extraction can’t be stressed enough
                Good Luck on your next batch!

                Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
                Teach a man to fish and he drinks beer for a lifetime

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                • A AK Meats

                  PapaSop tried buying it online and they wanted to charge $100 for shipping to Alaska

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                  AK Meats Where in Alaska do you live. They could ship it to someone in the continental US then USPS it to AK rather than UPS. Ask Jon or Austin if they can use USPS to ship to you, if would certainly be much cheaper.

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                  • A AK Meats

                    PapaSop tried buying it online and they wanted to charge $100 for shipping to Alaska

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                    AK Meats EEB42BAB-B25F-4CC4-A737-EF8EDFF61928.png

                    Here is what johnsbrewhouse was talking about. Not sure what zone you are located in

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                      AK Meats EEB42BAB-B25F-4CC4-A737-EF8EDFF61928.png

                      Here is what johnsbrewhouse was talking about. Not sure what zone you are located in

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                      twilliams I ended up ordering a soy protein

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                      • A AK Meats

                        twilliams I ended up ordering a soy protein

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                        AK Meats I know sure gel is the most popular around here, but I have used soy protein for years with no complaints

                        hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food!

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                        • twilliamsT twilliams

                          AK Meats EEB42BAB-B25F-4CC4-A737-EF8EDFF61928.png

                          Here is what johnsbrewhouse was talking about. Not sure what zone you are located in

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                          johnsbrewhouse
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                          #29

                          twilliams I live in Washington State. I have shipped UPSP priority mail to AK a couple of times. We have several friends that live there.

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                          • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

                            twilliams I live in Washington State. I have shipped UPSP priority mail to AK a couple of times. We have several friends that live there.

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                            johnsbrewhouse hopefully they aren’t charging you 100 for shipping 🤣

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                            • A AK Meats

                              johnsbrewhouse hopefully they aren’t charging you 100 for shipping 🤣

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                              AK Meats USPS isn’t, it went to somewhere near Ketchikan to a fishing community that had a PO. The others live in Anchorage.

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                                AK Meats USPS isn’t, it went to somewhere near Ketchikan to a fishing community that had a PO. The others live in Anchorage.

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                                johnsbrewhouse that’s where I live is Ketchikan…they wanted 100 for shipping so I told them to cancel the order…I have soy protein on the way

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                                • PapaSopP PapaSop

                                  Sure Gel… Game changer! Now use with all snack sticks and summer sausage.

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                                  I agree with PapaSop on the sure-jel and I also like the “twang” the ECA gives.

                                  “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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