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  • W Warrenlc57

    Won’t be long until “hog killing time” my great-granddad used to say. I was too young to learn how he processed a hog, but I know he had two cures. One was a sugar cure. The other he called a “Virginia Ham Cure.” I wish I knew what he was using and I hope some of you know.

    The ham tasted salty, and was usually fried into thin slices in a little fat. My great-grandmother then made “red eye gravy,” but I couldn’t eat it, because it was a “sin to give coffee to children.” I remember those country hams, and I remember how red the meat was, not like today’s hams. Anyway, if anyone knows how to make a “Virginia Ham,” I would love to have that knowledge.

    Thanks in advance, for any advice or help you can give me.

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    Warrenlc57 Country, or “Virginia cured ham” has been a staple in our family as long as I can remember. I have some in the fridge as I type this. In the Great State of Tennessee, most folks will simply call it Country ham, since there is a smoked Virginia ham, and Country ham is made in many other states. As a kid, I can remember my Uncle in TN butchering his own hogs and making his own Country hams. Its definitely some work. Ill check with my cousin to see if he has any of the family recipes/secrets on curing one. To me, the best breakfast sandwich made is a fresh biscuit, country ham, and a slice of fresh garden tomatoe.

    “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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    • GWG8541G GWG8541

      Warrenlc57 Country, or “Virginia cured ham” has been a staple in our family as long as I can remember. I have some in the fridge as I type this. In the Great State of Tennessee, most folks will simply call it Country ham, since there is a smoked Virginia ham, and Country ham is made in many other states. As a kid, I can remember my Uncle in TN butchering his own hogs and making his own Country hams. Its definitely some work. Ill check with my cousin to see if he has any of the family recipes/secrets on curing one. To me, the best breakfast sandwich made is a fresh biscuit, country ham, and a slice of fresh garden tomatoe.

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      GWG8541 Semper Fi! Thank you so much for responding. I, too, remember going into my great-grandparents garden for tomatoes for these breakfast sandwiches (since I wasn’t allowed to have red-eye gravy). I might be wrong about this, but I think he hung those hams in a smoke house for a very, very long time. I would cherish a recipe from your family. I served between 1975-1977.

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        GWG8541 Semper Fi! Thank you so much for responding. I, too, remember going into my great-grandparents garden for tomatoes for these breakfast sandwiches (since I wasn’t allowed to have red-eye gravy). I might be wrong about this, but I think he hung those hams in a smoke house for a very, very long time. I would cherish a recipe from your family. I served between 1975-1977.

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        Warrenlc57 Semper Fi Devildog! Its been a tough week. I was a.little after you 82-86 with 2/7. You are definitely right about the smokehouse hang time. It takes some time to get that ham dry.

        “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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        • johnsbrewhouseJ johnsbrewhouse

          Warrenlc57 Here’s a place to go to see how to make a Virginia Cured Ham. They are a lot of work, but the reward is worth the wait. https://gallatin.ca.uky.edu/files/how_to_make_a_country_ham.pdf

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          johnsbrewhouse good article, thanks for posting

          “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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          • GWG8541G GWG8541

            Warrenlc57 Semper Fi Devildog! Its been a tough week. I was a.little after you 82-86 with 2/7. You are definitely right about the smokehouse hang time. It takes some time to get that ham dry.

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            GWG8541 said in Country or Virginia Ham:

            Warrenlc57 Semper Fi Devildog! Its been a tough week. I was a.little after you 82-86 with 2/7. You are definitely right about the smokehouse hang time. It takes some time to get that ham dry.

            We got our fire team! Semper Fi brother.

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            • W Warrenlc57

              Won’t be long until “hog killing time” my great-granddad used to say. I was too young to learn how he processed a hog, but I know he had two cures. One was a sugar cure. The other he called a “Virginia Ham Cure.” I wish I knew what he was using and I hope some of you know.

              The ham tasted salty, and was usually fried into thin slices in a little fat. My great-grandmother then made “red eye gravy,” but I couldn’t eat it, because it was a “sin to give coffee to children.” I remember those country hams, and I remember how red the meat was, not like today’s hams. Anyway, if anyone knows how to make a “Virginia Ham,” I would love to have that knowledge.

              Thanks in advance, for any advice or help you can give me.

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              Warrenlc57 what we call country ham is the really dark salty, and shelf stable ham that is cured and aged for months, but definitions seem to vary depending on location.

              Here’s a couple resources
              https://nchfp.uga.edu/publications/nchfp/lit_rev/cure_smoke_meats.html
              home_meat_curing_guide.pdf
              https://extension.missouri.edu/publications/g2526

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                GWG8541 said in Country or Virginia Ham:

                Warrenlc57 Semper Fi Devildog! Its been a tough week. I was a.little after you 82-86 with 2/7. You are definitely right about the smokehouse hang time. It takes some time to get that ham dry.

                We got our fire team! Semper Fi brother.

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                Grimpuppy I’m actually a very old “sister.” Company A in boot camp at Parris Island was supposed to be the first woman’s company to snap in, but the weapons didn’t arrive. That is how old I am. LOL. I would tell you what I did, but I don’t know if it has been declassified. Probably, because that technology is obsolete. LOL

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                • W Warrenlc57

                  Grimpuppy I’m actually a very old “sister.” Company A in boot camp at Parris Island was supposed to be the first woman’s company to snap in, but the weapons didn’t arrive. That is how old I am. LOL. I would tell you what I did, but I don’t know if it has been declassified. Probably, because that technology is obsolete. LOL

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                  Warrenlc57 you may be surprised. We used some pretty old gear when I was in. Just slap another coat of paint on it and send it back to the fleet. I had 3 MOS’ in a very short time. 2542, 0351, and 8541.
                  By the way, that is too cool about your sister. Its amazing that WMs are now being trained at San Diego as well.

                  “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                  • GWG8541G GWG8541

                    Warrenlc57 you may be surprised. We used some pretty old gear when I was in. Just slap another coat of paint on it and send it back to the fleet. I had 3 MOS’ in a very short time. 2542, 0351, and 8541.
                    By the way, that is too cool about your sister. Its amazing that WMs are now being trained at San Diego as well.

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                    GWG8541 Grimpuppy Warrenlc57 I guess that makes me the “Old Salt”. (66-70).
                    Mos: 5942,5949
                    Semper Fi Marines!

                    Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                    • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

                      GWG8541 Grimpuppy Warrenlc57 I guess that makes me the “Old Salt”. (66-70).
                      Mos: 5942,5949
                      Semper Fi Marines!

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                      Bob Stehlik old salt and smart one.

                      “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                      • GWG8541G GWG8541

                        Warrenlc57 you may be surprised. We used some pretty old gear when I was in. Just slap another coat of paint on it and send it back to the fleet. I had 3 MOS’ in a very short time. 2542, 0351, and 8541.
                        By the way, that is too cool about your sister. Its amazing that WMs are now being trained at San Diego as well.

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                        GWG8541 2542, Camp Pendleton

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                        • W Warrenlc57

                          GWG8541 2542, Camp Pendleton

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                          Warrenlc57 good deal. Did you attend school at 29 Palms?

                          “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                            LOL, not my sister, but ME. I went to the stumps too, having the same MOS as you. I love the USMC. Two of my sons followed in their mama’s footsteps. One was Navy and the other a weatherman in the USAF. Changing the subject, but it is so nice to see so many men who still have these meat preserving skills and who can provide. It is so much fun just reading the posts. I love you guys, and I’m learning so much!

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                              Warrenlc57 good deal. Did you attend school at 29 Palms?

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                              GWG8541 I helped moved C&E Battalion from MCRD SD to 29 Palms and taught for 2 months in August of ‘67. Spent 6 weeks living in tents at Dead Man Lake training reservists in September/October of ‘69.

                              Improvise, Adapt and Overcome! Semper Fi

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                                WOW. The best dining facility I ever ate at while in the CORPS was a GP medium. You are older than I am. We called it 29 Stumps back then. MCCES is where I was trained. Do you remember them training with heavy artillery on that base? My friends in school (all men, I was the only woman) went swimming in the “pools” which were cesspools, and got some kind of infection. LOL I told them they were not for swimming in! The reason I enlisted is because men, like you, were being treated so horribly. I had the opinion that this country belonged to all of us, so I served too, but of course, never had boots on the ground. Women were not permitted.

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                                • Bob StehlikB Bob Stehlik

                                  GWG8541 I helped moved C&E Battalion from MCRD SD to 29 Palms and taught for 2 months in August of ‘67. Spent 6 weeks living in tents at Dead Man Lake training reservists in September/October of ‘69.

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                                  Bob Stehlik Unfortunately, when I was in, we did not consider ‘reservists’ to be real marines. LOL, of course, I was called a BAM (broad-assed marine). Times have changed a lot. Before I went to school, everyone told me that it does not freeze in the deserts of California. At muster, it was freezing cold, but by noon the polish melted off our boots and oxfords.

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                                    Bob Stehlik Unfortunately, when I was in, we did not consider ‘reservists’ to be real marines. LOL, of course, I was called a BAM (broad-assed marine). Times have changed a lot. Before I went to school, everyone told me that it does not freeze in the deserts of California. At muster, it was freezing cold, but by noon the polish melted off our boots and oxfords.

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                                    Warrenlc57 It did get a little warm there. I was there for Comm School and after the MOS change, a MCRES exercise prior to deployment. I got to hear the arty going down range and even overhead more that once. When your young and dumb its a cool experience.

                                    “You never really die until you end up on the wall at a Cracker Barrel”

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                                    • GWG8541G GWG8541

                                      Warrenlc57 It did get a little warm there. I was there for Comm School and after the MOS change, a MCRES exercise prior to deployment. I got to hear the arty going down range and even overhead more that once. When your young and dumb its a cool experience.

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                                      GWG8541 Agreed. When I was contracting in Iraq for OIF it was not so much fun

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