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    Labradorbob
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    If I use 80/20 hamburger 10 lbs to make summer sausage or snack sticks,can I add 1 pound pork fat to get the 30 percent fat and will this taste ok?
    Also should I grind through small plate?
    Or leave as is?

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    • L Labradorbob

      If I use 80/20 hamburger 10 lbs to make summer sausage or snack sticks,can I add 1 pound pork fat to get the 30 percent fat and will this taste ok?
      Also should I grind through small plate?
      Or leave as is?

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      YooperDog
      Team Orange Masterbuilt Big Green Egg Dry Cured Sausage Sous Vide Canning Power User
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      Labradorbob you can use the pork fat since it a pretty neutral flavor. I would grind the fat and mix it in the beef. If the beef is already ground I wouldn’t grind it again, it has probably been ground twice. I would make sure of getting a good mix when adding the fat. Normally I add the fat and protein during the initial grind to help with the mix unless I want to see a fat particle definition in the finished product.

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        The math teacher (a past life a long, long time ago), says watch the percentages. 10 lbs of 80/20 + 1 lb of fat = 27% fat or 9 lbs of 80/20 + 1 lb of fat = 28% fat. Either way a bit short of your 30% goal. Either way more fat is needed, personally I freeze the fat, then grind with my larger plate, and mix with ground beef & seasoning. I like the bigger pieces of piggy goodness.

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            The math teacher (a past life a long, long time ago), says watch the percentages. 10 lbs of 80/20 + 1 lb of fat = 27% fat or 9 lbs of 80/20 + 1 lb of fat = 28% fat. Either way a bit short of your 30% goal. Either way more fat is needed, personally I freeze the fat, then grind with my larger plate, and mix with ground beef & seasoning. I like the bigger pieces of piggy goodness.

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            lsaule 6 minutes ago

            Hi Alanburkholder. can you explain the proper way of calculating percentages you are referring to? I use pork loin to make sausages estimating 16% fat content. I add % fat based on what the pork loin weight is as opposed to calculating the amount of meat and fat in the pork loin, meaning that I simply add 14% of the 5,000 g to the recipe.

            I guess maybe I should change that to: if I use 5,000 g pork loin, that would really mean 4,200 lean meat and 800 g fat. To arrive at 30% fat content, I would have to add 14% of the lean meat amount (4,200 g) for 588 g of fat. This would translate to 5,000 g pork loin, 588 g pork fat to equal the 30% fat percentage of pork shoulder. Does that make sense or am I confusing? Am I on the right track?

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              You need to look at the total meat to determine the percentage of fat. So in your example of 5kg (84/16)loin, you would need to add 1k of fat to bring the total meat to 6k and 30% is fat.

              Hope this helps - remember the high school days saying “when would I ever use these ratios in real life?”

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                Didn’t really help, because it didn’t explain how you arrived at those figures but thanks anyways. I did some looking around and discovered Pearson’s square, which is the formula used to calculate how to mix two solutions to arrive at a given percentage.

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                  Too much advanced math for this guy…

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                    Too much advanced math for this guy…

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                    smokinbubba don’t worry I’m in the same boat.

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                      Didn’t really help, because it didn’t explain how you arrived at those figures but thanks anyways. I did some looking around and discovered Pearson’s square, which is the formula used to calculate how to mix two solutions to arrive at a given percentage.

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                      lsaule I guess how accurate do you want to be in your protein/fat ratio? You can break down your animal muscles into lean and fat and mix back together to get the protein/fat ratio you want. E.g. 5lb meat block with 30% fat is 3.5lbs lean and 1.5 lbs fat (5 X .30 = 1.5). This will get you in the ballpark. If you are looking for dead nuts accurate you are going to buy some really expensive equipment. I like to keep it simple and in the ballpark is good for most of my sausages, seasoning percentages are more of a focus for me. Hope this helps.undefined

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