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Walton’s package, 16, 19, 21mm casings, going to experiment.

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  • C cdherman

    No, it got a lip. Kind of hard to describe. Think of an “H” on its side with one of the arms tipped up. Now, it came installed with the tipped up arm/lip to the BACK, which meant it kind of leaked a little along the way. Not much.

    But then I figured out how to reverse the seal, so the lip was really sealing. You have to really baby the piston in, by turning it (I keep it partially unthreaded) and using your finger to start the seal. But once I figured that out, man, perfect seal. I mean NO meat escapes except the little bit left at the end.

    I’m also amazed that even with thick sausage, somehow or the other most of the air escapes via the air valve. I do try and “throw” handfuls of sausage into the stuffer so that they kind of splat at the bottom. Trying to work out the air bubbles in advance.

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    cdherman
    It sounds pretty effective. Would be nice to have a backup gasket if it were to break.
    My old machines don’t have any gasket per se.
    I did turn a tight fitting round piece of poly from a cutting board on the lathe to go under the cast iron piston and it does a surprisingly good job of stopping the blowby.

    Paul

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    • C cdherman

      No, it got a lip. Kind of hard to describe. Think of an “H” on its side with one of the arms tipped up. Now, it came installed with the tipped up arm/lip to the BACK, which meant it kind of leaked a little along the way. Not much.

      But then I figured out how to reverse the seal, so the lip was really sealing. You have to really baby the piston in, by turning it (I keep it partially unthreaded) and using your finger to start the seal. But once I figured that out, man, perfect seal. I mean NO meat escapes except the little bit left at the end.

      I’m also amazed that even with thick sausage, somehow or the other most of the air escapes via the air valve. I do try and “throw” handfuls of sausage into the stuffer so that they kind of splat at the bottom. Trying to work out the air bubbles in advance.

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      cdherman I wouldn’t mind seeing a picture of that stuffer and wierd gasket, sounds interesting!
      processhead It’s surprising this pretty simple hydraulic based machine, a stuffer, hasn’t been perfected… area ratios for a 10mm tube ability, simple gearing, lever arm to drive it easily, seal, minimum wastage by making piston hump insert into exit tube. I mean I look at mine, and with a lathe I could greatly improve it. It just amazes me that with a lever, gears, and hydraulic area ratios all in play, some of these stuffers won’t drive a 10mm tube!

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        cdherman said in Walton’s package, 16, 19, 21mm casings, going to experiment.:

        My Vevor 7 liter horizontal came with a 10mm tube. Bout 6" long. And it has nice machined metal gears. Checked with a magnet. Not potmetal, but steel. The piston is either cast aluminum or potmetal. My only worry is the seal around the piston. It will get old eventually, and there are no parts from Vevor. But it looks like a carbon copy, sizewise, of a LEM.

        The piston is cupped to match the end of the tube. Leave only a little residue in the nozzel where the tube attaches. Probably 1 oz or 2 oz waste out of 15 lbs.

        Is the piston seal a round profile like an O ring, or some other shape?

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        processhead I have heard about those horizontal PVC water pressure powered stuffers in the past made from PVC pipe & considered making one several times. However, when I thought about it, I thought that perhaps the stainless steel vertical stuffer is better for part time users as I thought the stainless steel may be more sanitary. Plastics can pick up the smells & tastes of the materials they are in contact with & sometimes that can be hard to remove. You remember when back in the late 70’s they tried putting liquor in plastic bottles more & the taste was just off. Re-using plastics etc., no matter how well you clean them, sometimes has an after smell, etc. I am curious to anyone else’s thoughts on it though.

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        • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

          cdherman I wouldn’t mind seeing a picture of that stuffer and wierd gasket, sounds interesting!
          processhead It’s surprising this pretty simple hydraulic based machine, a stuffer, hasn’t been perfected… area ratios for a 10mm tube ability, simple gearing, lever arm to drive it easily, seal, minimum wastage by making piston hump insert into exit tube. I mean I look at mine, and with a lathe I could greatly improve it. It just amazes me that with a lever, gears, and hydraulic area ratios all in play, some of these stuffers won’t drive a 10mm tube!

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          Dave in AZ said in Walton’s package, 16, 19, 21mm casings, going to experiment.:

          cdherman I wouldn’t mind seeing a picture of that stuffer and wierd gasket, sounds interesting!
          processhead It’s surprising this pretty simple hydraulic based machine, a stuffer, hasn’t been perfected… area ratios for a 10mm tube ability, simple gearing, lever arm to drive it easily, seal, minimum wastage by making piston hump insert into exit tube. I mean I look at mine, and with a lathe I could greatly improve it. It just amazes me that with a lever, gears, and hydraulic area ratios all in play, some of these stuffers won’t drive a 10mm tube!

          This was my solution to the leverage issue on a couple of my stuffers. It works really well.

          69e0e445-1047-4cd1-b821-e71de0ba1c65-20180314_093916.jpg

          Paul

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            That looks like it can generate some torque!

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            • Dave in AZD Dave in AZ

              That looks like it can generate some torque!

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              Dave in AZ said in Walton’s package, 16, 19, 21mm casings, going to experiment.:

              That looks like it can generate some torque!

              It does. It means smaller helpers like my wife or daughter can get it on the processing fun. 😁

              Paul

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